Meyer Sound VRAS System Used in a Restaurant to Dampen Sound

soph0nax · 2012-05-27T03:43:58.927103+00:00

Way to misunderestimate the conversation.

I've spec'd LARES systems. They're underwhelming. They're fussy. They're a bad solution to a moderate problem. "Crowd noise" is a terrible application of the system.

LARES is bullshit, I don't care who makes it or where they put it.

Gvades · 2012-05-27T01:55:41.666991+00:00

The idea that we have a bias that causes us to overestimate our positive qualities and underestimate our negative qualities.

That's not "bias" that's "self-esteem." It is not a constant, nor is it a universal quality.

I personally believe that having an opinion about things that are quantifiable is pretty stupid - my GRE scores are either higher than average or not. My belief has fuckall to do with that. Things that aren't quantifiable have no "average" - am I "above average" morally? It's a meaningless question because for there to be an "average" you would have to be able to numerically assess morality.

So really, your question becomes "are you full of yourself?" The answer is "sometimes."

soph0nax · 2012-05-27T01:46:59.807508+00:00

LARES is bullshit, I don't care who makes it or where they put it.

MuhMuh · 2012-05-26T22:08:17.919316+00:00

needs moar MuhMuhfuckas

Electric_Crayon · 2012-05-26T18:47:17.333338+00:00

Everclear seems like overkill. We usually make it with rotgut popov vodka and let it sit for a couple months, then cut it with simple syrup.

KNHaw · 2012-05-26T18:44:43.703104+00:00

...that looks fucking delicious.

I just finished an omelet or I'd throw down. Maybe toss some minced ham or turkey in the bulls-eye before dropping the eggs. Nice job, citizen.

johnnykindle · 2012-05-26T18:43:17.096390+00:00

I have zero need for this product but I commend your marketing.

JollyGreenDragon · 2012-05-26T18:41:34.331400+00:00

I sat back and whistled low as Ghostery clicked through eleven trackers. Gizmodo, which has a veritable a plague of trackers, runs nine.

meltshake · 2012-05-26T18:35:42.524376+00:00

First death I ever saw was a drowning.

I was probably five, maybe six. My parents liked to take the canoe up to Fenton Lake. It was Memorial Day or Labor Day weekend, a saturday, and hot. As a six year old, the event was mostly pretty lame - drive in the car for an hour, get in an aluminum canoe, and paddle around while all around you are rowboats and motor boats and people partying and having a good time. The lake was crowded; my mother hates people so it put her in a foul mood.

Off to one side, in amongst a bunch of boats, was a guy swimming low. He was surrounded by his buds and they were probably drunk. As a six year old, they were just "loud." They certainly weren't "upset" or "anxious" or "distressed." So we paddled away.

It isn't a big lake, though, so you make a circuit and you're back where you started. They weren't nearly as boisterous when we got back. And the boats were closer.

There was a guy on the deck of one boat, not moving. We paddled away again. My parents were tense.

As we brought the boat out of the water, there were police and an ambulance. There was a guy sitting on a rock with his head in his hands, saying "hermano" over and over again. And there was a stretcher. I didn't see it well. The guy in it wasn't moving, though.

Probably 100 people watched that guy die without knowing it.

The next time we went out in the canoe we had life jackets. That was 1979 or 1980. My parents never went back to Fenton Lake.

bgautijonsson · 2012-05-26T18:18:43.467925+00:00

No, the one with the knife and the museum. Which one was that?

It's not that "we're going to be bored by everything that Borges mentioned first." It's that the story in question takes the fundamental issue of time travel paradoxes and says "what paradox? That's 500 words, give me my $15."

bgautijonsson · 2012-05-26T17:29:49.471845+00:00

The problem being it's a digest of a Borges story written in 1940 or so that I spent 20 minutes looking for but couldn't find.

Some truly great science fiction was written decades and decades ago. You don't get a pass because you're old.

yunohavefunnynames · 2012-05-26T16:50:12.485730+00:00

No, but I've gotten AAX plugins of all my RTAS shit without having to pay a dime.

bgautijonsson · 2012-05-26T16:49:18.670184+00:00

That story has always struck me as trite and pointless, actually.

ecography · 2012-05-26T16:44:47.844615+00:00

1) Presumes the background noise is static. It isn't.

2) Presumes that our friend can handle the math of phase cancellation, when in fact he couldn't handle the knack of getting a mic closer.

3) Presumes he knows where to find software to do this and has a clue how to start. I have a degree in engineering, post-graduate work in acoustics and a Kyma system and I'd be loath to start fumbling around.

I recognize that you're trying to be helpful, but it's kind of the equivalent of a guy walking into an auto shop asking why his car is running ragged and being told that his best bet is to convert his combustion chambers to hemispherical.

yunohavefunnynames · 1 day

1) There were like 100,000 people at NAB.

2) "Reading books" does not make you an expert.

kellan6 · 1 day

The easiest thing to do is probably iTunes.

bgautijonsson · 1 day

Or Ellison.

bgautijonsson · 1 day

Asimov got nuthin' on Clarke.

ecography · 1 day

This is the crappest crap that has ever crapped crap. Did you record this? Was anybody listening?

Whoever recorded it got a fair amount of ground hum.
There's a conversation happening over the reporters talking.
The noise is horrific.

Here's 10 minutes of hackery in Izotope RX. There might have been a hope in hell if there wasn't two people talking over the top of it.

yunohavefunnynames · 1 day

I haven't yet.

yunohavefunnynames · 1 day

Why yes. Yes, I have had this conversation with them.

They shrug their shoulders.

yunohavefunnynames · 1 day

You're right. That's much better. Where's my credit card?

yunohavefunnynames · 1 day

It's really fun meeting with their sales engineers when you tell them you aren't even running native and they say "why aren't you using our hardware?" and you say

"Frickin' $250 per input for AES is why. Fix that and I'm all over it."

The amazing thing is I'm running 40x64 on fucking MOTU. Frickin' 2408 Mk IIs. Priced those lately? They're like $250 each used on eBay. So for $500 you can get 16x16 analog and 32x32 digital, 24 bit, up to 48kHz (which is what you're running at for film anyway), with about 7ms latency. or you can spend $12k for I/O and another $10k for the HDX cards and have 2ms latency.

That's $21k for 5ms of latency.

Fuck.

THAT.

yunohavefunnynames · 1 day

Nope. If you aren't using native I/O, you top out at 32x32.

I looked long and hard at an RME MADI approach 'cuz at least that way I'd get 64x64 AES, which would work fine. However, Pro Tools won't address fully half of the channels if you aren't doing it with Avid's hardware.

yunohavefunnynames · 1 day

That's entirely possible. My investment in Pro Tools is pathetically small compared to others: I'm $500 into PT10, $1k into CPTK2 (craigslist) and $2k into a pair of MC Mixes and an MC Transport. That $2k into Euphonix controllers will work with whatever; their integration is actually better in Logic than it is in Pro Tools.

However, I'm in Pro Tools at all because Logic is fuckin' blood on the bricks when you throw timecode, 5.1 and more than 10 minutes of run time at it. What else are we going to do post in? Nuendo? Might as well buy a Radar system. Soundtrack Pro? Don't make me laugh.

If I were crankin' out 5 minute singles, I'd be Logic all the way. My last project had 190 tracks and came in at 90 minutes, though, and I took it as far as I could in Logic only to have it detonate. PT10? Handled it with nary a complaint, even at 10.0.0.

So Pro Tools may very well wander off into the night. However, something else is going to have to step up that can handle three-digit track counts, timecode, multiple video streams and bucketloads of automation. Say what you will about Pro Tools, it's tough to break.

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