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Fat and Simple: Body weight as a control system by jacques_chesterin Fitness

[–]eric_twinge 1 point2 points ago

You are really breaking my balls here, dude, and using "LOL" is not helping your cause.

Read the study, it is not saying what you are thinking it says.

Yes, the prevalence of insulin resistance (26%) is exceeded by the prevalence of hypersecretion (38%). Furthermore, the combination of resistance and hypersecretion was only found in 14%.

Additionally, even though the obese secreted more insulin than the lean, they cleared it out faster.

If you think this "proves" anything about what you are saying you are exactly the ketard I'm beginning to think you for.

As for your final "this is also relevant" quote - no, it's not. Unless of course you're attempting to explain why a study you chose to prove your point is no longer applicable after I showed you the flaws in your argument.

I'm done here.

Fat and Simple: Body weight as a control system by jacques_chesterin Fitness

[–]eric_twinge 1 point2 points ago

First of all:

In nondiabetic, normotensive obese subjects, the prevalence of insulin resistance is relatively low

Secondly, have you read this study? It doesn't say what you think it does.

Three novel aspects, however, emerge from the data. First, the severity of insulin resistance in obesity was overestimated when insulin-mediated glucose uptake was normalized by body weight (as is often done).

[...]

Second, the prevalence of insulin resistance among the obese subjects was surprisingly low: only one in four subjects was as resistant as the bottom decile of the lean group. Even in the presence of definite obesity (BMIs of 28–50 kg·m22), only one in two individuals was insulin-resistant. Regression analysis showed that a rather large difference in body weight (30 kg) was associated with only a modest (25%) decrement in insulin sensitivity. Thus, we conclude that the quantitative impact of obesity on insulin action in otherwise healthy subjects is not as large as previously thought.

[...]

Third, when whole-body glucose uptake was expressed in absolute terms, the impact of BMI was marginal (Fig. 3). This finding reflects the fact that fat-free mass is expanded in the obese (Table I); though relatively resistant to the action of insulin, this excess fat-free tissue is metabolically active and contributes to glucose tolerance. Conversely, to the extent that weight reduction includes loss of fat-free tissue, this compensatory adjustment is lost.

They then go on to ask:

A relevant question is why a high proportion of obese subjects are not insulin resistant.

and continue to debunk the wrong, yet prevalent ideas about insulin in the obese.

Finally, they conclude:

In summary, in simple obesity insulin resistance is not as prevalent as previously thought, and is less frequent than insulin hypersecretion.

As you probably guessed, all emphases are mine.

Bench Press Instructional Video: Learn how to be strong like bull! by RHAINURin fitnesscirclejerk

[–]eric_twinge 2 points3 points ago

Don't forget to subscribe.

Fat and Simple: Body weight as a control system by jacques_chesterin Fitness

[–]eric_twinge 2 points3 points ago

By "your study" I meant the source of the text you quoted.

Impact of Protein Supplements on Muscle Recovery After Exercise-induced Muscle Soreness by alexyeahdudein AdvancedFitness

[–]eric_twinge 5 points6 points ago

Here's the full text.

The results aren't all that surprising, I guess. Untrained college students, self-reported intake of ~80g/day of protein, and they still got DOMS after fasted eccentric work with either ~30g of whey or sugar following.

Not sure you'd need a study to tell you what results you'd get. Still, the authors did a good job stating the limitations and comparing their results to other studies. I'd expect nothing less from my alma mater.

Fat and Simple: Body weight as a control system by jacques_chesterin Fitness

[–]eric_twinge 7 points8 points ago

Your study is looking at the individual responses of 37 people. Mine is showing the average results of 9,088.

Certainly there's going to be individual variation, but when viewed on a population level those are going to get smoothed out.

4realz - Fitness CSSers, any chance we could put something like this on the sidebar? by Mogwogglein fitnesscirclejerk

[–]eric_twinge 6 points7 points ago

Are you suggesting that people read the sidebar?

Fat and Simple: Body weight as a control system by jacques_chesterin Fitness

[–]eric_twinge 7 points8 points ago

This study, conveniently shown in this graph.

Fat and Simple: Body weight as a control system by jacques_chesterin Fitness

[–]eric_twinge 12 points13 points ago

Yes. I'm curious why you think insulin is able to magically create mass out of thin air.

But I guess after your height analogy and using entropy to back it up I shouldn't really be surprised.

You are aware that insulin is also released when eating protein, yes? You are aware the 'healthy' obese people have been shown to have the same insulin sensitivity as healthy normal weight people, yes?

ITT: FDR tries steroids by jjb2123in fitnesscirclejerk

[–]eric_twinge 9 points10 points ago

Just go with it, man.

Fat and Simple: Body weight as a control system by jacques_chesterin Fitness

[–]eric_twinge 12 points13 points ago

No, that person is going to die long before s/he gets fat.

FOR THE TAUBES by jacques_chesterin fitnesscirclejerk

[–]eric_twinge 3 points4 points ago

Jack, what don't you get here?

In. Su. Lin.

Fuck, you're dumb.

Is it safe to use Vibrams for HIIT? by toogsterin BarefootRunning

[–]eric_twinge 2 points3 points ago

The whole point of minimalist shoes is to do away with the shock absorbing qualities of regular shoes. You adjust your form to be less shocking and absorb the remainder with your body as it's meant to.

"What I need to do is love my body for what it is and not waste my life hating myself for something I can't change." [+11] by NZFLEin fitnesscirclejerk

[–]eric_twinge 15 points16 points ago

In that place it's near impossible to tell the circlejerking trolls apart from the braindead fucktards.

So to answer your question: no.

"What I need to do is love my body for what it is and not waste my life hating myself for something I can't change." [+11] by NZFLEin fitnesscirclejerk

[–]eric_twinge 19 points20 points ago

CALORIES IN CALORIES OUT ALL MEAT COMPUTERS HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME METABOLISM BEEP BOOP

That's actually pretty funny... and sad that they probably think that somehow invalidates calories in/out.

Cardio faggotry (nsfw-boobs) by FuarkBrahin fitnesscirclejerk

[–]eric_twinge 13 points14 points ago

The best bits on any girl are the fat bits, especially when she's skinny.

Am I doin' it right? by KieferSutherlandin fitnesscirclejerk

[–]eric_twinge 8 points9 points ago

Really, why did I keep clicking when it became apparent each picture would have more nudity than the last?

I just ran 24km for the first time, my longest distance ever. What's yours? by canibeyourpinupguyin Fitness

[–]eric_twinge 12 points13 points ago

C25K Day 1? Keep it up, bro. You'll get there!

HOW TO EAT??? by kdellzin fitnesscirclejerk

[–]eric_twinge 7 points8 points ago

That's precisely why I don't read it.

The Perfect Warm-Up? | Tony Gentilcore by AhmedFin weightroom

[–]eric_twinge 1 point2 points ago

Let's not dirty up the place with the c-word, ed.

Programming Questions by KomradeKettlebellin weightroom

[–]eric_twinge 2 points3 points ago

You've probably already seen this, but I'm doing my RDLs and Russian curls for reps of ten. The RDLs are about 2/3 the working weight of my regular deads and I strap up when my grip starts giving out. 5 sets for RDLs (they are my BBB accessory lift) and 3 sets for the curls because after that they become more of a plyo push-up than a leg lift for me. Though after a couple of months now I think I'm ready to add a fourth.

I do the curls on my deadlift day and the RDLs on my squat day. Also, you may want to try out stiff leg good mornings. I've been really digging on them. Of all the things I do they are the one thing that I truly feel in my hamstrings. And I'm only using 95lbs, again for 5x10. If you haven't seen this from Wendler on GMs, here it is.

Also, troublesome drops the knowledge bomb on RDLs here.

Routine Critiques / Program Results Posts: by xtc46in weightroom

[–]eric_twinge 1 point2 points ago

xtc, you and the others are doing a great job here.

Menucat sighting; still got it. by Cammorakin fitnesscirclejerk

[–]eric_twinge 10 points11 points ago

He's training for the Death Bed Time Trials. I have no idea what that is but it sounds pretty badass.

Back left side of neck sore when turning too far - after back day session by tototozin Fitness

[–]eric_twinge 1 point2 points ago

No, more like strained it. Not soreness.

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