As he would stand in front of his men handing them white envelopes of cash, a chant would rise up from the fired-up defenders: "Give it back! Give it back! Give it back!" Many players would do just that, to beef up the pot and make the stakes bigger as the season went on.

ihateyoursister · 2 months

That Goodell says he has that none of us has ever seen. If someone told you hey one of your family members commited a crime and I have the evidence you would want to see the evidence yourself not just go off of their word that it exists. Sorry, nope.

supertruck97 · 2 months

Who cares? Sign him for a one year deal. If he acts up cut him. He's a great athlete, eats well, is motivated for that ring with little time left and any coach that brings him in is going to let him known where he stands on the team. I think people are putting too much stock in his attitude. I hope Payton keeps him around.

allsecretsknown · 2 months

It isn't the end of the world - yet. The same thing happened with Manning. They still have time to get a deal worked out.

allsecretsknown · 2 months

Don't say that.

PopularScyence · 2 months

For Christ's sake, really? Because we were the ONLY TEAM with a bounty program? Give me a fucking break.

ihateyoursister · 2 months

Can someone explain to me where this information came from? Because right now it sounds like a bunch of oversensationalized BS.

I am beyond pissed at my team right now but what I am looking for is facts from Goodell and not shit like this. If this is factual information from Goodell that has been leaked than that is even more fucked up.

Right now all I have to go on is a twitter statement by GW, random information put out by Goodell that is at this point completely one sided and a bunch of media fapping off at a giant NFL news story in an otherwise quiet period.

aznsacboi · 2 months

Honestly I would not be surprised to find out he has some form of spinal stenosis. It's weird for both him and Cooper to have such severe neck problems but not be related in any way.

Either way I have multiple neck issues and the pain can be excruciating. My heart goes out to Peyton.

anotheranotherother · 2 months

Sadly I am new to /NFL and looked forward to hanging out here this upcoming season but I doubt that I will because I don't want to spend the entire time pissed off for this reason alone. I will probably just stick to my Saints forum.

I am also already tired of seeing all the whining Vikings fans saying they would have won the championship without a bounty (the Farve bounty is hersay, btw) which is just retarded. It's called holding onto the ball people, just like we should have done against the Niners.

DrBobert · 2 months

Warner already came out and said that hit did NOT end his career.

babboa · 2 months

"As an Eagles fan..." No need to say anything else.

esbern · 2 months

I agrre and it's been said by multiple other logically thinking non-Saint fan Redditors that while it's unethical it's not cheating.

habdragon08 · 2 months

Man I was afraid everyone was going to jump on board with this idea and I am glad to see most people are not.

bonishjwhs · 2 months

So pissed. Something I been proud of is how the Saints look for "high character" players. I can't say if that isn't true or if they just got caught up in the game up but I can't be proud of that now.
The Saints will probably never live this down and the fans get to reap the benefits. I love this team and I don't want to love a dirty team. It's fucking bullshit.
The refs will probably be up our ass now and so will other teams. I wouldn't doubt that other teams come full speed for our QB...possibly Brees, if he still wants to be a Saint.
Every hit from the past 3 seasons looks questionable now and so will every one from here on out, regardless of how legal it was/is. Warner already came out and said the hit on him was completely legal, regardless of it was paid for or not, and said it did not send him into retirement because he was already going to retire but Deadspin has already started running with it. I'm sure Warner doesn't want to look like a pussy and it's probably annoying him.
If this is a league wide thing, and it looks like it is, then the NFL needs to investigate it and not just make the Saints the poster child for it. If the Redskins had a program then investigate the Redskins.
I hope Greg Williams is removed from the NFL for good. Fuck him for doing this. I hope all of the players involved are suspended.
I can't believe they tarnished our Superbowl season. I just can't believe it. Anything but that season, the ONLY ONE. How selfish CAN YOU BE?

brosenau · 2 months

Shit they don't even make a Vilma jersey for women so I had one made. I can't even wear that shit now. So pissed.

fake_sagan · 3 months

The crunch of defense.

methodamerICON · 3 months

The Saints forum I am on is also super respectful and knowledgable. So happy to have 2 cool places to discuss football.

wookie4747 · 3 months

I never said I supported BSL. I have 2 pits and I am fully against BSL. You said there is no research behind any of the things you listed and I said there was, not that I was for or against any of it.

I also never said I supported PETA, the discussion was on HSUS. You seem to have an issue with adding words that were never written.

I worked closely for years with regional directors of the HSUS on multiple cases and I am fully aware of how they operate, thanks. They have personally helped my friends and I with things that otherwise could not have been accomplished. Like I already said, people have to keep in mind the things I already mentioned in regards to any group like theirs. It's not all sunshine and rainbows but they have a lot of power that can be used to the animal's advantage.

And stop putting words in people's mouths.

wookie4747 · 3 months

Actually you have a ton of misinformation here so I am assuming you have not done a lot of research or have experience with much of what you posted. Hsus is not for the removal of people from pets and I have no idea where you even got that from. Peta and HSUS are nowhere near the same organization. There is a lot of research behind anti-tethering, BSL, spay/neuter, etc. Obviously you need to sit down and do a lot of reading before entering back into a serious debate about such a big topic.

RayADropofGoldenSun · 3 months

What drives me crazy is people who are bipolar but refuse to stay on medication and take care of themselves. With many people it can be controlled and is at the very least worth the effort. When people refuse to even try, especially when they tell everyone they know they are bipolar in order to get attention, it worsens the bipolar stigma making it even harder on people with bipolar disorder that work to stay balanced and live healthy lives.

gjinx · 3 months

Aww must have hit a nerve....boo hoo.

Those people could have been just as happy with a puppy from a shelter. Your dog isn't any better or different than one they could have found there and you can't make guarantees for mother nature so get over yourself. Kanye much?

woogs · 3 months

It sounds like your typical animal case here in Texas/the South. A bunch of BS misinformation, the laws are poorly written, everyone is pointing fingers, the owners are idiots, no one knows what's happening and all of the animals suffer because of it. It's really more a problem with the situation I think than the article - I see it every day.

TreacleMiner · 3 months

Small dogs and big dogs should always be seperated and why would anyone leave them unattended, even for a second?

wookie4747 · 3 months

With every organization that promotes an important cause we have to be use our heads, remember that they can't take on everything, they need the fame and money to keep running, there will be a mix of shady and good people running the show and that ultimately the benefits usually outweigh the bs in relation to the cause (most of the time.)

The HSUS runs on money. They need to do dumb shit like bring Mike Vick on board to get their name out there. They will also end up taking on larger cases that will bring them fame. At the same time they are the lifeline to animals in emergencies like hurricane Katrina, constantly involved in puppy mill and dog fighting ring raids, etc. They provide free animal cruelty training to police departments and animal compassion programs to schools. In the long run they are a worldwide leader in the animal rights movement and animals are better off for it.

DangerDaninSpace · 3 months

The Wellness Core weight loss food is awesome! Both of my dogs and all of my parent's dogs have lost weight on it!

DangerDaninSpace · 3 months

It's not actually half of the calories because the pumpkin has calories. I'm interested to know much canned pumpkin they use and what the caloric intake is.

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