Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal - NYTimes.com

satiani · 1 day

outsideonline · 1 day

And Quebec

acusticthoughts · 1 day

because sometimes reading someone with an opposite opinion to the mainstream/and or yours, happen to provide you with some perspective and can nourish the debate on any subject, however crazy their opinion is.

Also :

yet they were wrong

Yes. And I dare you to find any media source, anywhere, who was right about anything they predicted, anytime, ever.

You shouldn't take predictions literally. They are generally attached to an article to provide the reader with some sort of insight on the nature of the consequences of the facts the article are depicting. (Assuming they are facts)

NOTE : I do not read zerohedge and do not know the kind of journalists they are. I am only responding to the question you asked in your post title.

peetss · 1 day

yes, but as far as I am concerned, there is a difference between:

1) There is too much Greek Philosophers/people with GP-related major

and

2) Greek Philosophers are useless, and dont result in a career that contributes back to society.

You and I are engineers. As such, we should be able to discern between facts backed by mathematical evidence, and reactionary eugenicist speculations. Like my father always said : If you think something is useless, it means you don't know shit about it. Don't blame it on others.

So now, if we both agree that the problem is one of over-inflated supply (1), which i am sure you will, then lets move on to the next step : how do we solve it ?

1) Tuition Raise/Financial stress to suppress demand: Does reduce overall demand. Doesn't guarantee that there will be less Greek Philosophers -related majors. -> chose the rich over the competent.

2) put Quotas, enforced by thorough examination. I.E : Economy needs at most 400 people a year with a comp.sci degree. take the 49'000 candidates, put up a hard exam, take the 400 best to graduate. the rest can try again next year (education is free, remember) and if not are out of college without degree. -> chose the competent over the rich.

As an engineer, I don't understand how politics came up with the solution 1 in the first place as it doesn't even guarantee to solve the problem. Try solution 2 with Greek Philosophy and I guarantee you that you wont have 49000 candidates when they learn that only the 5 best will graduate.

peetss · 1 day

I disagree with you but I will upvote, because in the context of this discussion your arguments are well explained and dont revolve around the brainless "hippie kids should have their skulls cracked up" rethoric.

As for the subject, I fail to see the connection between high tuitions and education quality :

I think you are right, getting higher education should be harder in the fields plagued by redundant B.A.s/too much engineers (yes, it happens too, in my country). However, it should not be financially harder: In a consistent education system you want the people with the more competence to succeed. Not the ones with more money/connections/influence, otherwise you defeat the whole education paradigm and B.A.s or MA's or any title are removed from their meaning (which is what is already happening in anglo-saxon education systems).

Therefore I think that this is a planning problem :

The economy needs X Software Engineers this year. Take the whole mass of SE candidates for this year, make them have the exam. The X people who scored the best results become SE. The rest can try again next year.

This is how it works in my place (Switzerland) and universities are free (500$ fee actually, but that's free considering the minimum wage is around 4000$, and the fact that the states provide a shitloads of education sponsorship to anyone poor).

Education is and should be free. That is the whole paradigm the social revolutions of the IXXth century. I don't think going back on that social acquis will produce anything but more unrest/inequality bringing us back to obscure times where the rule of law was just a political idea. You need educated people to have a healthy society.

peetss · 1 day

Let get rid of all these artists and philosophers! I mean come on most of the ones I know are on unemployment benefits and spend their day drinking! I mean... who needs music, paintings and poetry! Who needs imagination! LETS ALL BE MONEY-MAKING ROBOTS!

</sarcasm>

Do you realize what you are implying ?

NOTE : As an engineer I probably share your view on the matter. However, after reading you, I just felt compelled to argument for the opposite side for the sake of mankind.

mepper · 1 day

did you actually read those ?

mepper · 1 day

Because these guys defending GMO are probably PR from/or paid by Monsento. I mean look at any post containing the "Monsento" keyword... then look at their accounts history.

Its funny how the comments section on any post of reddit are usually filled with well documented arguments mostly backed by scientific sources or well documented journalism provided by the community, but when it comes to anything related to Monsento it turns out like a complete Fox News information bulletin...

I mean come on...Look at these guys (or this guy) argument rhetoric :

"... something they hate is winning" : yeah "hate"! lets bring some violence in there!

"There's a certain evil..." implying they are the bright side who fight evil forces (usually strike the emotional rope on religious and influenceable people)

and I am not even talking about the whole "anti science" argument (they don't back anything they say on any scientific publication whatsoever.)

Hell one of these accounts even go as far as to imply Monsento works to "fix world hunger". Yeah Sure! That's how capitalism works! (BTW If you are the guy who came up with this: Your PR argument is bad and you should feel bad.).

Either that or when it comes to GMOs, reddit users main information source is Fox News.

Anyway thats another story

peetss · 2 days

YES!

High education should only be for rich people who can afford it. If you are born with an IQ of over 200 and will probably build a transneptunian low yeild radiowave detector or implement an efficient anti-retroviral against HIV is not relevant:

If you are born from poor beginnings you will clean my toilets and fix my car!

You know... Because we want to live in a country where dumb (but rich) people get a chance to go to university too! While smart (but poor) people dont -no mater how smart they are! Hell: we like dumb (but rich) kids so much that we even elect them to lead us!

FUCK YEAH!

</sarcasm>

If you think that the supply/demand is overstretched : put admission exams to universities

If you think that people don't learn shit in High Schools : introduce a national-level final exam at the end of High School for the whole country (like in France)

As for myself, I fail to see the connection between high tuitions and education quality. Could you please enlight me on what you are trying to say ?

mepper · 2 days

science has actually not proven that that GMO crops are safe for both mankind/environment. Hence the link I provided to the very well documented description of all that doesn't catch up with this company's business.

You sound like a 1925 scientist pesting to defend the health value of a good radium bath

Stop yielding science as a shield to actually prevent you from educating yourself.

HINT : A scientific study is not the bible and is not a holy truth delivered to mankind. Sometimes people actually do write wrong things in their scientific papers. I am an engineer and Ive read a lot of bullshit back in the day... You better wise up and stop considering anything written by a Science Major owner as the holy ultimate thruthness of the world. People have self interests and agendas. And you are naive.

ALSO : Scientific evidence ? I am the only one here who provided a link to a well written documentary backed by investigative and scientific evidence on how harmful this company and its buisness model is for common people. I am still waiting for your scientific evidence that GMO are indeed "healthy" and pose no threat whatsoever to mankind/ecosystems, because up to know you and your friends on this thread are just yielding your "science" argument, but the rest of us have yet to see the scientific paper you guys are talking about

mepper · 2 days

Will you please get down of your flamboyant "science" horse, and take a minute to look at what you are defending?

mepper · 2 days

Original

Ill even put an english translated version for americans

Now you watch this, and keep in mind that It was sponsored by arte, a public service TV channel funded by both Germany and France, which has a stand up reputation on quality programmes. You please feel free to google anything/any study this woman used in the making of this documentary, to get the full stories/sources.

Then, once you have acknowledged the long list of "unethical practices" the company you work for has committed at the date (2008) of this documentary, please come back for the "having fully informed discussions about it" part.

davidreiss666 · 2 days

this argument is so morronic I cant even....

Hey! everybody is getting gassed then incinerated here! If nobody complains, it does means that it's normal ok?! Now Stop protesting!! I'm being gassed this afternoon and i'm not complaining!!!

- Bzinga121, Auschwitz, August 1944.

</sarcasm>

pool92 · 7 days

I like this guy

xxschultzxx · 8 days

http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com

Matticus_Rex · 8 days

FYI : giving tax breaks to multinational corporations (the people that finance your party) is not Keynesian stimulus.

Build some goddamn highways and traintracks in your country... and then come back to talk about how stimulus is not working.

Last time I was there, you could see that a lot of work has to be done in infrastructure. In fact if it wasn't for the shitty infrastructure in the first place, maybe the country wouldnt have been in economic stagnation for the last 30 years!

grreporter · 9 days

I remember back in the day (2008) when Greece Debt/GDP ratio was lower than Italy and the headlines were

Financial markets are Dragging Greece down

Talking about selective memory.

salvia_d · 9 days

of course not.

And that is why we cant have good things in europe.

With a parliament that doesnt have any power in broader economic policies, individual countries (which means Germany, which means German Government) fills in the gap.

Then you have the ECB which is almost private owned by the most powerful financial institutions in euro (German-French-Italian)

German Government will work to be reelected by the German people. ECB will work to make Deutsche Bank/Societe Générale happy.

Who is supposed to work for the greek economy (people) in the european level ? It should have happend in the European parliament... Unfortunately Sarkozy/Merkel finished to ripp of any power out of that body years ago.

DrJulianBashir · 10 days

A Mirror version of TPB (new torrents are beeing uploaded & work)

Proxy access(official proxy provided by TBP on FB)

both up works as of 16.05.2012 16:15 CET

radbrad7 · 10 days

EBookers

Got a round trip plane ticket. Company cancels returning flight. E-Bookers cancels round trip ticket. Spend countless time trying to get them to do their job and put me on a returning flight with no success. Finally deal with the company directly. Company put me on an alternate flight for free. Ebookers contact the company to cancel the new arrangement "because we said so".

FUCKERS

TLDR : worst. online travel agency. ever.

salvia_d · 10 days

1.print money.

2.Invest printed money into infrastructure (reduce unemployment)

3.get some inflation ( keep it around 3%)

... effectively reducing the nominal salary of the workforce thus increasing competitivity

thats basically what happend here in switzerland in the beginning of Sept 2011 when the shit hit the fan and exports fell sharply -devaluated the money 25% overnight using the printer to buy forex. Nowadays unemployment is 3.1% and debt is around 30% of GDP

JackIsidore · 11 days

AGAIN GODDAMMIT!

wirplit · 11 days

Am I the onlyone who cant take newspaper reports on elections anymore?

I mean

GIVE US THE GOD DAMN RESULTS OF THE ACTUAL ELECTION GODDAMMIT!

I'm sorry but it had to get out. I cant seem to find any article about elections including the actual results of the election... and it really REALLY bother me.

If you are a Journalist and reading this :

Is it that hard to include a pie chart/table including the full results of the election you are reporting on, in your article ?

</rant>

maxwellhill · 16 days

Swiss here : It (is supposed to) works like this:

1) Scrap all state welfare (Universal healthcare/Pensions/disabled pension/etc etc)

2) Pay everyone (working or not) the same base of money (2500$) deductible from the salary, I.e. : If your employer paid you 5000$ before the law, he will now pay you 2500$, the state providing the rest.

3)The money would be gotten from taxes that are freed from: 1) welfare & 2) the huge cut on corporation social charges (salaries) that allow the State to tax them more. Basically instead of paying you your full salary, the company pays half to you and half to the "State basic income fund).

Basically instead of having part A (workers ) of society paying for part B (non workers) as in the current welfare, Everybody is elligible (even the CEOs). Which, in my opinion is kind of more fair.

TL:DR : Universal Welfare

SuXs

TROPHY CASE

SuXs

TROPHY CASE

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