CEVO Announces Team Fortress 2: Highlander Revival Tournament (Banlist includes Wrangler)

shiftup72 · 3 days

I apologize- I've been arguing with too many 6s elitists. ;) But, I guess you could call me a HL elitist. I'm a dedicated Engie so HL is the ideal format for me.

shiftup72 · 3 days

That's not true whatsoever- a wrangler makes an engineer a sitting duck for a spy. If I'm ever going to be wrangler-heavy on a map, I have to have our pyro with me and the caller will often pull the soldier back to help handle aggressive soldiers or demos. Wrangler makes the gun harder to take down but it requires more teamwork because you have to have someone help protect the engineer himself/herself.

shiftup72 · 3 days

Fantastic points, and thank you very much (sincerely) for giving me a reality-check (i.e. about how I sound vs. 6s players). I certainly do not want to come across like that, nor am I really that uptight or stubborn. ;)

"But people eventually realize that there were aspects of the game that they had not discovered yet, and these forced changes shifted the metagame into a different, more fun environment."

I completely agree. This is why I like trying out new weapons, new maps, etc. and also go back to older classic maps and play "vanilla". No matter how many times you've played a game, you can always find new little things that work- especially when you look at it from a different perspective.

Thanks for the comment. :) Also, I love your username.

shiftup72 · 3 days

If CEVO advertised this league as "Newbie Highlander" or something, sure, okay- but also ban Ambassador, Direct Hit, etc. and any other weapon that gives a class the ability to easily kill another class.

Babying teams by banning random weapons isn't going to do anything but frustrate the hell out of them when they get to the real HL leagues and have to go up against them.

If you can't handle a wrangler, you have no business playing competitive TF2.

shiftup72 · 3 days

There is no reason to ban the wrangler. And yes, our team is sticking to the big leagues- UGC & ETF2L. I'd have no problem trying out a smaller league if they didn't arbitrarily just remove weapons they personally don't like. People hate the wrangler because a) they aren't used to going up against engineers and b) it makes things a bit more difficult for them. It's not overpowered, it doesn't give anyone an unfair advantage.

If a player cannot handle going up against a wrangler, they have absolutely no business playing competitive.

shiftup72 · 3 days

Nope, I am not props.angel.

The wrangler does not bog the game down or make it tedious- in fact, it's a great way to encourage teamwork amongst a HL team to take it down. It's like a person saying that using a medic makes the game unfun and tedious because it makes things a little tougher for the other team- but honestly a spy and a scout can easily take down a wrangled sentry. Is it just that everyone interested in this thread only plays 6v6 and hence has no experience against engineers?

shiftup72 · 3 days

I'm a "career" Engie. I use it a lot- it's not unlike someone who mains soldier who prefers one rocket launcher over another.

shiftup72 · 3 days

You must not play Engineer a lot. XD

shiftup72 · 3 days

The summer season is just supposed to be a fun season and I've tried out the custom maps- they're definitely playable and a fresh change of pace from the normal. They're not terrible maps- it's not like you fall through stairs or anything. Croissant has been used in tournament play before.

The wrangler is one of the most necessary tools an Engie has in comp play. Lower-level teams need to go up against it, otherwise they are just going to be eaten for breakfast when they play a real Highlander match. Also, when I was first getting started as a career Engie, the wrangler was the only way I could keep my guns up and it also helped me immensely in learning how to switch between weapons quickly. I just can't fathom why it was removed other than personal bias on the part of the admins.

shiftup72 · 4 days

Did the admins just arbitrarily ban whatever weapons they personally didn't like?

If a player cannot handle a wrangler, they have absolutely no business playing competitive TF2. They need to go back to the pubs.

shiftup72 · 4 days

I personally really liked the participation medals!

shiftup72 · 4 days

No, instead SteamRep is doing a UGC summer raffle.

If they are oh-so-sponsored as they claim, surely they could scrounge up something.

shiftup72 · 4 days

I'm sorry, but if a player cannot handle a wrangler they have absolutely no business playing competitive TF2. The fact that wrangler is banned makes this a complete joke. Neither one of the big leagues (ETF2L, UGC) ban wrangler because it's a legitimate tool that all the competitive engineers use. I understand that because this league is more familiar with 6v6, they probably don't really understand how competitive engineer works as a class but they should look to the big leagues who do Highlander to see how it's done.

There's also absolutely no reason for the sandman, vita-saw or ullapool caber to be banned either. Is this this Fischer-Price of competitive gaming or something? Or did the admins just decide to arbitrarily ban all the weapons they don't personally like?

Either way, I'll stick to the actual Highlander leagues. We won't be participating.

shiftup72 · 4 days

We're not signing up and have no plans to do so. The banlist is far too restrictive.

hamisdie · 19 days

Actually, I'm happily married to Mattie. =D And yes, just because it is neat to run into someone you know from somewhere on another site.

Our public server is tf2.mattie.net but we also play a lot on the Fug servers.

hamisdie · 23 days

I had a lot of fun playing with you as did my other teammates. =)

hamisdie · 24 days

STU! I played with you on a TF2 server the other day!

BioRain · 1 month

Oh my god, that is absolutely one of the saddest things I've ever seen. The original video posted doesn't even come close. Holy hell.

Funnnny · 1 month

Yup! As a former GameStop manager, I can confirm this. You open it before you do the return, see that they're trying to scam you, and they mumble something then leave in a hurry. One guy actually tried to argue with me that I somehow made his 360 magically evaporate from the empty box he gave me. I pointed to the video camera, told him I'd be more than happy to call the local police to sort it out, he yelled an obscenity at me as he bolted.

sburn · 1 month

This is so true.

aspiramedia · 1 month

Get her into gaming, get her a portable console & a game like Bejeweled. It will help her with childbirth. Not even joking here- I learned that from experience as a certified childbirth doula.

aspiramedia · 1 month

Agreed! Even if you don't like FPS, plenty of family-friendly games like Minecraft, etc.

aspiramedia · 1 month

Still be excited! PC gaming FTW.

aspiramedia · 1 month

Definitely get them started early. My 11-yr-old has thoroughly mastered consoles. Now it's on to PC. I'm hoping by the time he graduates high school he'll be pro and his sponsorships will help pay his tuition. XD

aspiramedia · 1 month

PFFT. Only if she's not a gamer.

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