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[–]Bucky_Ohare"Indian Name" would be Compensates with Sarcasm. 200 points201 points ago

Universal constant: Rebooting is still the most effective troubleshooting method known.

[–]the_raptor 50 points51 points ago

It makes sense. When you "reboot" something you completely reset it to the correct initial starting conditions. Most issues are caused by a minor error that grows as time progresses until the device is useless.

[–]Helzibah 23 points24 points ago

Yup, I recently found out that 'turn it off and on again' works for my car too!

Issue with the idle sensor that got compounded by the garage telling me entirely the wrong thing after replacing it meant that my car was stalling with alarming frequency as the revs kept dropping. Turns out that disconnecting the battery for half an hour and then letting the engine run untouched for 5 minutes on startup let it re-find the correct idle point and ta-da! Working car again.

[I hope this explanation does not cause as much pain for car-people as non-tech-person explanations can cause me. This is as best as I understood it!]

[–]CaptainOrik 17 points18 points ago

Can we reboot the brain without data loss or is everything in RAM O:

[–]DoorsofPerceptron 8 points9 points ago

Yup, this is basically how ECT sort of works.

[–]LaughingMan42 13 points14 points ago

As I understand it, we don't actually know why ECT works.

[–]Bucky_Ohare"Indian Name" would be Compensates with Sarcasm. 11 points12 points ago

It really is a reboot to the brain; Induce seizure and wait for reset. Hope positive change lasts.

[–]CaptainOrik 2 points3 points ago

Very Cool!

[–]trollosophy 1 point2 points ago

I am so wide-eyed right now. That is amazing.

[–]Icalasari 0 points1 point ago

Late, but: That is awesome!

[–]EvacuateSoulAre you TRYING to kill our patients? 2 points3 points ago

Wow, my 1999 Mustang GT has been having problems idling. I'd probably try this if I wasn't gonna get another car next month.

[–]insufficient_fundsNo, I will NOT fix that. 0 points1 point ago

yep, that's because modern cars are run by computers.. gotta kill the power and let it all reset :)

[–]Qurtys_LynMost powerful Lord and Master of Google 0 points1 point ago

And this is why I have a 40 year old car, none of those stupid sensors to cause problems. Just two idiot lights on my dash to tell me when I've lost the Alternator or Oil Pressure.

[–]bohemian89 9 points10 points ago

You seem to be implying that sensors cause problems, which is incorrect. Sensors detect problems. Hidden problems are still problems...

[–]Qurtys_LynMost powerful Lord and Master of Google 2 points3 points ago

Yes. But sensors also go bad. Which is a problem. And an annoying (and expensive usually) one to boot.

[–]Trolly_PolePatron Saint of E-Waste 1 point2 points ago

Would have thought that there is software available to figure out what the problem is (drunk and may be misinterpreting the problem)

[–]landragoranAre you from the past? 1 point2 points ago

also, when sensors go bad, they often have a tendency to shut down ALL THE THINGS until they're fixed.

O2 sensor went bad on my current car about a year ago. no other problems, just a dead sensor... and the car literally wouldn't run if the RPMs dropped below 3k. 500 dollars and a new sensor later, and the car runs fine.

[–]insufficient_fundsNo, I will NOT fix that. 0 points1 point ago

well that's because the O2 sensor is pretty important. It 'sniffs' the exhaust gasses and tells the ECU if the engine needs more or less fuel in the combustion chambers, to make it run optimally/properly. with a FUBAR'd O2 sensor, you get screwy idles, shity gas mileage, etc

[–]lordofthederps 5 points6 points ago

It's a concept that Hollywood has been using for some time now.

[–]tonberryCamera store employee 2 points3 points ago

I work in a camera store, and I do this all the time when people come in with a camera that isn't working. Reset all settings to default, clear all custom setting, check all buttons for stickyness (noone EVER admits to leaving their camera in a puddle of beer) and pick out the bios battery if possible.

Three times out of four this solves everything :)

[–]squ1bs 9 points10 points ago

Power cycle all the broken things!

[–]PapayaJuice 7 points8 points ago

This shall forever be known as the "Ohare Constant."

[–]Bucky_Ohare"Indian Name" would be Compensates with Sarcasm. 4 points5 points ago

Would wear the honor proudly.

[–]xb4r7x 5 points6 points ago

Too bad you can't reboot users...

[–]Bucky_Ohare"Indian Name" would be Compensates with Sarcasm. 8 points9 points ago

I think a swift boot to the head might elicit a similar event.

[–]lwsladepowered by coffee 2 points3 points ago

and another for Jenny and the wimp, of course.

[–]bettaproger 2 points3 points ago

helps with foot pain

[–]CaseyGQA - I break the things you fix! 2 points3 points ago

"This book offends my sensibilities."

"Have you tried closing it and then not opening it again?"

[–]emlgsh 2 points3 points ago

You say that, but when I try it on human beings, people call me a madman. Or a murderer, if they fail to boot following my "power cycle" procedure.

[–]trollosophy 0 points1 point ago

Turn off, pull out the game cartridge, blow into it, put it back in, turn on. Success!

[–]cyborg_127Head, meet desk. 89 points90 points ago

You mentioned a key point there - you listened. I have no problems with a technologically incompetent person as long as they listen to the instructions I give. I might have to explain where to look, and any number of things to them, but as long as they listen and follow what I say it all turns out a lot quicker than the person who does their own thing.

[–]AskuraOnline Marketing - Still has a soul 29 points30 points ago

That's exactly what pisses me off. I worked in the UK for a fairly well known directory company in their web team and most of the web support team were borderline I.T illiterate.

I ended up having to do most of the training and most people just glossed over what I told them and just summoned me when they inevitably hit a brick wall and couldn't suss out what to do. Minus the girl sat next to me. She actually listened, learned, and applied common sense.

I never had to teach her anything more than once and she learned very quickly. By the end of the third week she was actively training people with me and was pretty competent.

I fucking love people like that.

[–]mwerteSounds easy, right? It would be, except for the users. 3 points4 points ago

Did you wife her?

[–]AskuraOnline Marketing - Still has a soul 9 points10 points ago

We were both seeing someone at the time and she ended up going travelling around Australia for the year where as I moved to another city for a new job. But as we're both now single we are meeting up when she gets back to catch up and what not.

Short answer: No I did not.

[–]mwerteSounds easy, right? It would be, except for the users. 8 points9 points ago

Yet. Go for it!

[–]AskuraOnline Marketing - Still has a soul 8 points9 points ago

Well wifing (or marriage, as it's generally known) is a bit of a big step so we'll start with drinks haha.

Cheers for the vote of confidence though!

[–]insufficient_fundsNo, I will NOT fix that. 1 point2 points ago

[–]AskuraOnline Marketing - Still has a soul 0 points1 point ago

We're meeting this weekend and for some reason that made me think of this comment. God damn I'm suddenly nervous and I'm never nervous!

[–]insufficient_fundsNo, I will NOT fix that. 0 points1 point ago

good luck buddy! i'm sure it'll go fine!

[–]AskuraOnline Marketing - Still has a soul 1 point2 points ago

Thanks man; I'm hoping so. Never really gave it much thought until now...

[–]angryobboAlcohol works for me. 6 points7 points ago

Yes. And on that note, I bet you didn't try to predict the next step and jump ahead. Or refuse to do a step because you've done it before (and tell the person helping you that you did it - cmon we've all done it before).

[–]torbar203Click Here To Edit Text 1 point2 points ago

Also, if sewing is a key part of your job(or hobby, but in this case I'll just apply it to a job), you should really know the basics of how to operate one, and a few basic troubleshooting steps. You should know about the top and bottom tension threads, just like if it is your job to use a computer every day, you should know about left and right click.

[–]sunsetr33[S] 1 point2 points ago

It isn't, at least not yet. I decided to send out a batch of jewelry that my aunts ordered in something nicer than plastic bags, and since some fabric was laying around, I wanted to try using it. I know I have a lot more to learn before I can make it a key part of my hobby.

[–]torbar203Click Here To Edit Text 2 points3 points ago

Right, I'm not talking about your situation(same with a computer, I don't expect someone who doesn't use one very often to know much about them), but if your on the computer from 9-5, 5 days a week, and have not made any effort to learn about it, that's what it seems is the problem most people here have with end users

[–]Gypsy_LizIt's not your computer, it's you. 19 points20 points ago

Is it wrong that I'm saving this post for future sewing machine troubleshooting reference?

[–]sunsetr33[S] 5 points6 points ago

Nope, if it helps, save away!

[–]Grubnar 21 points22 points ago

IF ALL ELSE FAILS, REBOOT. - Ancient old saying.

[–]catvllvs 38 points39 points ago

Have you tried unhitching and re-hitching the donkey?

[–]dnicholsonb 30 points31 points ago

Turn the donkey off and on again. I don't know what turns donkeys off, but I've seen a couple of videos online that would probably turn 'em on.

[–]Bucky_Ohare"Indian Name" would be Compensates with Sarcasm. 4 points5 points ago

badum tsh

[–]Masterofnone9 5 points6 points ago

The best place to start is always from the beginning.

[–]crispyhexagons 4 points5 points ago

Thank you, from one of the illiterates. I always try what occurs to me before calling IT, but I always feel dumb as fuck after they've come and gone and fixed my minor problem...

[–]Letmefixthatforyouyo 6 points7 points ago

Not to be harsh, but we all were dumb as fuck at somepoint. Hell, we still are, just at a deeper level. I'm a sysadmin, and I'm baffled all fucking day. You just keep going. Eventually, your baffled will be another Mans guru.

[–]verugan 5 points6 points ago

It pleases me when people tell me they've already RTFM or Googled it and at least put a little bit of effort into the solution. The last thing I need is to explain the SUM formula in Excel one... more... time...

[–]sunsetr33[S] 2 points3 points ago

For me, asking for help is generally my last resort because I prefer to RTFM or google it and try to solve things on my own. Once in a while, though, I run into something like this that just stumps me.

[–]MadCarrot 3 points4 points ago

Hello, IT. Have you tried turning it off and on again?

[–]lalophobia 4 points5 points ago*

I'm stupid for not remembering this earlier.. But I was having a talk with someone and suggested to leave the device unplugged for a few minutes and we got into a small talk of that it might actually work.. when suddenly I remembered this brilliant anecdote.

I was once travelling home and the train had been acting up for most of the ride, nothing serious, but clearly the train was acting up (If i recall correctly it was one of the brakes that was braking slightly while it wasn't supposed to ) but still 'suddenly' we come to a complete stop and the intercom says something along the lines of.

"we apologize for the inconvenience so far but to resolve our technical difficulties we need to reboot the train and this means for the next 5 minutes it will be dark and our delay is increased with 5 minutes. Again sorry for the inconvenience" power shuts off .. 1 to 5 minutes later (no idea).. train restarts and everything worked better as expected..

tl;dr ..forgotten anecdote about - passenger in a commuter TRAIN that needs to be rebooted to fix a problem - ..

[–]sunsetr33[S] 0 points1 point ago

I can only hope that I am never in an airplane that needs a mid-flight reboot... Thanks for sharing, I had no idea they could reboot trains too!

[–]lalophobia 1 point2 points ago

Well I think he used the word restart... And it was driving up to the point he stopped it safely. But You have a good point ;)

and I went "restart, wait did he just say he needed to reboot the train darkness.. Oh.." .. but effectively it was a reboot and I had no idea either :D

[–]Anna_DraconisToken female tech 2 points3 points ago

This is adorable. Saved.

[–]notpandoraweb undeveloper 2 points3 points ago

Hehe I was going to say, it was probably tension setting, it's always the tension setting! But good on ya for listening to granny and good on her for her patience and ability to explain. Hopefully next time I have to explain something I will channel your granny and be helpful and patient!

[–]sunsetr33[S] 1 point2 points ago

And, now that I know where the tension settings are and how to adjust them properly, hopefully the next time I call my grannie for help it will be for a more complex problem and not the same one (because, heck, I'm teaching myself how to sew. Of course I'm going to run into problems xD)

[–]xtracto 2 points3 points ago

Your story brought reminded me the guy who posted here some days ago bragging about the douchy answers he gave to people asking for his help (something that he was being paid to do).

I like the majority of the stories from TFTS, specially because as the "IT" guy from my family I relate to several of them. But I will never think less of people who do not know how to do something with a computer, or if they have a problem even if they think that they "uninstalled" some program by accidentally moving a shortcut out of the desktop.

As you said, for me, when talking about why a car works/do not work, how to fix a refrigerator or even my bicycle. Because people are not stupid, they just know something that I do not know.

[–]DKainePortable Sysadmin 2 points3 points ago

I didn't even realize that sewing machines have adjustable thread tension on the bottom... TIL.

[–]pascontent 2 points3 points ago

Thank you for sharing this little gem, to remind us how we can sometimes be at the receiving end and that we must act as we wish our users did.

Kudos to your grandma :)

[–]sunsetr33[S] 1 point2 points ago

My grandma is awesome. I'm wearing a shirt she sewed me right now :)

[–]ErisHeiresssudo make me a sandwich 2 points3 points ago

Your grandma is a trooper! I'd rather troubleshoot networking issues (not my forte) than try to troubleshoot a sewing machine over the phone.

[–]Stormdancer 2 points3 points ago

Thank you for sharing this. It's so easy to forget.

[–]rekgreen 1 point2 points ago

I got goose bumps reading that. Lovely story.

[–]Middle_Aged 0 points1 point ago

I cant find my start button.