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A man at work today used a "Heavy Light Pen" on his coffee, and explained it changes the molecular structure and energy of the water. Link inside. (self.skeptic)

submitted ago* by Khalexus

Heavy Light Pen official website.

Basically looks like a pentorch. Or a sonic screwdriver, even. Anyway, I made him a coffee then he started stirring it while shining this 'Heavy Light Pen' into his coffee. Supposedly, the light has a frequency that somehow reacts with the water, changing it's molecular structure or energy. He said it makes water taste "smoother".

I was curious but quite sceptical, and decided to check it out when I got home. When he said it makes water taste "smoother", I thought it sounded a little bogus but was curious enough to look it up. After reading the FAQ, my scepticism alarm bells are definitely ringing. It's not just about taste, it's all about healing energies and such. Here's an excerpt:

The procedure for introducing the bio-information by holding the water while illuminating it allows a more precise remedy. This is because the water has been held by your hands and therefore has the unique information from your personal body. The water therefore has an energetic state that can precisely meet the needs of your energetic state at any given time. The light penetrates through the water and consequently affects all the energy carried within the water molecules in the bottle.

The use of HL light to create a vibrational remedy has an energetic effect that can be described as an “energetic kidney” – the action is to dissolve the energetic stagnation that can be stored up for years. This positive movement is the Holy Grail of every natural remedy. It is usually followed by a transformation phase due to the energetic changes that occur.

For those of you who are familiar with healing from a powerful qigong master, it has similarities to when they heal at the information level. It is the most powerful level to perform healing.

There is other stuff about using these lights in alternative medicine.

Has anyone here come across one of these before? Reminds me a lot of those scammy wristbands.

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[–]Mandinder 14 points15 points ago

Well let's see.

  • Multiple disparate claims

  • Fucking "holographic bioresonance"

  • Water has Memory

  • Holistic claims

  • Crazy high prices

I know little about it, but the claim of water memory has been thoroughly debunked by science. Also, holographic resonance? I would provide some links, but the internet is protesting Sopa today.

[–]Khalexus[S] 0 points1 point ago

Yeah, no doubt in my mind at all it's a load of horse shit. I'd just never heard of 'heavy light' before so thought I'd see what claims were made about it. All the guy mentioned was making water taste "smoother", didn't realise it was going to make all these other ridiculous claims.

But yeah, thought I'd post this, wondering if any other Redditors have seen these things before.

At the moment, I mainly wonder if they built these things in any way at all differently than just sticking a lightbulb in a fancy looking tube.

[–]sisko2k5 -2 points-1 points ago*

Water does have memory though. That one is true science. Probably not in the context in which they are talking about though. Edit to provide link for water having memory claim. Further edit - uh yeah...after reading their "information" they say water has memory of events in your life. Not the same thing.

[–]Mandinder 5 points6 points ago

He refers in that video to an article he published in Nature. The following is the excerpt from the Wikipedia article on Jacques Benveniste, a prominent and discredited homoeopath. By no means true science.

As a condition for publication, Nature asked for the results to be replicated by independent laboratories. The controversial paper published in Nature was eventually co-authored by four laboratories worldwide, in Canada, Italy, Israel, and in France.

After the article was published, a follow-up investigation was set up by a team including physicist and Nature editor John Maddox, illusionist and well-known skeptic James Randi, as well as fraud expert Walter Stewart who had recently raised suspicion on the work of Nobel Laureate David Baltimore.

With the cooperation of Benveniste's own team, the group failed to replicate the original results, and subsequent investigations did not support Benveniste's findings either. Benveniste refused to retract his controversial article, and he explained (notably in letters to Nature) that the protocol used in these investigations was not identical to his own. However, his reputation was damaged, so he began to fund his research himself as his external sources of funding were withdrawn. In 1997, he founded the company DigiBio to "develop and commercialise applications of Digital Biology.

[–]sisko2k5 9 points10 points ago

Nooooooooooooo! Well thats a bummer. Serves me right for not doing further research into the truthiness of it all. Thanks Mandinder for bringing me back to reality.

[–]Tainster 7 points8 points ago

Pseudoscience is rampant these days.

[–]Mandinder 3 points4 points ago

And indeed, any days.

[–]Codebender 6 points7 points ago

600-1600€ for a xenon flashlight? That guy has way too much money and apparently can't give it away fast enough, you should help relieve him of it. Sell him your aura, and autograph it for him.

[–]loinbread 4 points5 points ago

Dude, no offense but you work with a fucking idiot. Tell him that if he helps relieve your workload, the resultant Positive Energy from performing a Karmically Charged act will allow him to synthesise his Dream Wills and bring him good luck... but only if he lets you present the workload to the boss as if you completed it yourself.

[–]Khalexus[S] 2 points3 points ago

Heh, this was a customer not a coworker.

[–]loinbread 8 points9 points ago

In that case, he is the world's smartest man. A downright genius. His pen is extraordinary. Yes, a very great man and would he like to step this way to have a look at our wares? Over here, by the expensive ones.

[–]wineobot 2 points3 points ago

See the company that makes them. They sell the new ones as flash lights.

[–]Khalexus[S] 3 points4 points ago

So wait, Heavy Light uses refurbished legitimate diagnostic lights and sells them as alternative medicine?

I can't tell if that's scummier than just building a fancy looking torch themselves or not. I guess that's where the high price comes from, though.

[–]deathfantasy 2 points3 points ago

Give him a blind test and see him squirm.

[–]MaxQ 2 points3 points ago

The company also makes a magic food-rebalancing plate.

http://www.heavylight.de/publish_en/hl_motherboard.php

"The Motherboard acts to restore the pristine naturalness of food and water that is placed on it."

"It is particularly effective for removing "stored fear" in the meat of animals that have been put to slaughter."

Sounds legit to me.

[–]Khalexus[S] 0 points1 point ago

I feel like I've stumbled onto some horrible cult secret that everyday people were not meant to know about.

[–]orthag 0 points1 point ago*

The fuck is stored fear supposed to be?

EDIT: Phone still a little shakey on past tense.

[–]LevitatingTurtles 0 points1 point ago

Water has the ability to retain information with which it was into contact.

See also, Homeopathy (n); fail (v)

[–]AwesomeFama 0 points1 point ago

I don't often find so many bullshit buzzwords in only 3 paragraphs, I think I have to go visit /r/aww now.

[–]EmpRupus 0 points1 point ago

This is because the water has been held by your hands and therefore has the unique information from your personal body.

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