I know we're all tired but now is the time. we need to start a SOPA level movement against ACTA.

Dara17 · 1 year

Check out r/ACTA and r/Europe - there's alot going on to stop ACTA.

It can't become law in Europe until the plenary vote in June. If Europe refuses to ratify it, the agreement loses a major economic bloc which should kill it.

Here's what my MEP's office had to say about it:

Thank you for your email outlining your opposition to ACTA. I will bring the points and concerns you have raised to the attention of Mr Aylward. As you may be aware the European Commission has asked the European Council to authorise the signature for ACTA and then the European Parliament will be officially asked for consent. As ACTA is a mixed agreement - partly competence of the Member States - ratifications by national parliaments, including Ireland, will be required as well.

The European Parliament Committees that are responsible for this file - INTA (Internal Market) and JURI (Legal Affairs) have already began preparatory work and have asked the Parliament legal service for opinion. We have been informed that the JURI Committee is currently checking the compatibility of ACTA with the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights.

The was concern among MEPs regarding the secrecy of the negotiations surrounding ACTA and there have been several Parliamentary questions on this issue, mostly calling for publication of the documents from negotiations.

Mr Aylward is not a member of the committees responsible for ACTA but his ALDE (Alliance of Liberals and Democrats) colleagues in the Committee have been to the forefront in asking for increased transparency and called for the European Commission to present all discussion documents, relevant studies and impact assessments on ACTA.

At present, clarification is still needed on the compatibility of ACTA with the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights before a final position is taken. The MEPs are awaiting this and the feedback of their colleagues working directly on this file. Mr Aylward has received several emails from constituents concerned about the impact of this agreement on their livelihoods and access to information and will take these views into consideration ahead of fully Plenary vote.

Pinworm45 · 1 year

Yeah, signing internet petitions sure was exhausting. I still have vietnam style flashbacks to it. SOPA traumatic stress disorder, too.

escalat0r · 1 year

Instead of fighting all these laws separately, we need to instead create a piece of legislation that upholds freedom of speech on the internet, and forbids any government agency from interfering with the people's free communication for whatever reason.

Nashmann · 1 year

ACTA and it's brand new ugly brother, TPP:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110105/02301112524/son-acta-worse-meet-tpp-trans-pacific-partnership-agreement.shtml

I wonder if those "politicians" actually want a revolution on their hands. They're certainly asking for it.

HurrdurrMannen · 1 year

http://www.facebook.com/events/243895365687129/ ACTA protest in gothenburg,all swedes asemble! (upvotes for awareness of protest please)

gordonv · 1 year

Ok, we already know why we need to do this, but no one is posting WHAT to do.

Who do we call? Who do we email? What people and how many of them are voting on this treaty?

Is there a site that has objectified the goal? When are these votes going through? How does the voting process on this work?

_JustinCase · 1 year

If you blacked out wikipedia twice in as many months, it would lose all meaning. It's kind of a shame that more sites didn't try to raise ACTA awareness on the same day.

BookKitty · 1 year

It's already been signed behind closed doors. http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/10685-obama-tries-to-bypass-congress-with-deadly-global-internet-treaty-acta

mutatron · 1 year

We're all tired?

IceOnTitan · 1 year

You cant get tired because they will never stop. On top of this even more pressing issues at the core are overturning the NDAA and Citizens United, and stopping the expatriation act. We should just bundle them all up and fight them all at once.

khast · 1 year

From what I've read, ACTA is pretty innocuous. It's actually much weaker than earlier drafts. There's a reason Google, Wikipedia, etc. spoke out against SOPA but not ACTA.

Yes, it's concerning that the negotiations took place behind closed doors, but it's a stretch to call the current version of ACTA a threat to internet freedom.

Keep those pitchforks sharp for another day, folks.

Dara17 · 1 year

I want this to happen. I really do. But this is starting to seem like a losing battle. The people responsible for ACTA are using all the shady techniques in the book to make sure its passed. It has little media recognition (I've been following it, yet I only found out today that the UK signed it two days ago). Nobody is sure how to stop the bill. Unlike SOPA/PIPA, ACTA is a broad bill covering a range of topics. Not to mention, it's international, so its harder to form IMO a worldwide protest.

I_CAPE_RATS · 1 year

Oh, come on, let's give fascism a chance!

theFasterTheBetter · 1 year

Interesting look from a redditor at ACTA and why fighting it directly is the wrong strategy: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/or8ag/ive_read_the_final_version_of_acta_heres_what_you/

D33GS · 1 year

There are still things that can be done in the USA at least from what I understand. Obama wants to by pass congress on approval of ACTA and label it as executive mandate/order/whatever because as he claims it would not be law or constitution impacting. This could not be further from the truth obviously. All law impacting legislation must be first approved by both the House and the Senate and cannot be determined by simple executive decision.

shortbuss · 1 year

kick 'em in the balls. i'm just writing a comment to ensure this thread is headed. don't mind me.

isdevilis · 1 year

I would, if I didn't already know that this is going to fail miserably because all the weekend warriors have the attention spans of a fucking flea.

peaches_and_sunshine · 1 year

Don't know if this has been posted, but www.avaaz.com has a petition with about a million signatures already.

queen_of_rancors · 1 year

Soooo... Canada's C-11....

LizE110307 · 1 year

Can we not forget about the C-11 bill in Canada? I mean the canadian redditors helped us with SOPA and they deserve the same level of effort from us.

[deleted] · 1 year

Not many times in my life have i really felt the need to ACT against something that was political. I think ACTA poses a serious threat to everyone downloading in their home. Clearly ACTA has the support of most of the (European)countries already and it's looking like this is going to end wrong.

Though deep down some where i know the Internet can't and will never be stopped.

found314 · 1 year

We need to take preventative action.

[deleted] · 1 year

If we are going to have to fight against every single act that these greedy bastards propose, we are going to end up fighting a loosing battle. What we need is to propose a new law, which extends the ideas of freedom of speech to the new era, and upholds the freedom to communicate without government interference. We need to propose a new law that guarantees the right of citizens to freely communicate with each other over any medium - whether it is physical sound, or over the virtual internet. The right to communicate should be inviolable and should supersede any other rights such as copyrights or patents that may come in conflict with it.

sloppy · 1 year

Actually you're a whole lot late for ACTA, it's pretty much done and over with. All the planning on what would go into the trade treaty was all secret. About the only thing you can do for preventing ACTA in the US, is fighting Obama over the idea that ACTA is a trade treaty and he doesn't have the authority to sign it as that is congress's prerogative. He signed it as a executive order and it is beyond the scope of his powers.

Now it is not too late to fight TPP. TPP is being done in secret just like ACTA was for the last two years in the making. TPP is trying to fill in the holes that couldn't pass in ACTA. Here is some info about it, what little is known.

koenio · 1 year

is there a short clip or piece of information that we can use to convince the uninterested public of the harm of ACTA? Something simple and powerfull.

inmate2 · 1 year

yawn

Kovukono · 1 year

The reason SOPA got so much notice was because websites all over the internet blacked out or mentioned it all on the same day--it was practically impossible to miss. The reason they did that was because Reddit set a date and asked others to join them. Until Reddit (or another major website) sets a date and makes noise, it won't happen. Doing it again, while effective in saying "Yeah, ACTA's out there," probably wouldn't have the same effect. Asking us to do what we did for SOPA just won't work again--we need something new.

WorstPunsEver · 1 year

We're all tired?

laddergoat89 · 1 year

It is more up to the big companies to do a blackout like SOPA again.

I mean, sure there were complaints/petitions etc... but what really made an impact was all the blackouts.

Reddit, google, wikipedia, facebook etc... STEP UP.

fightingknife · 1 year

I'm sure everyone has seen it at this point since it is at the top of r/politics, but this thread looks to preemptively strike against internet censorship.

I really think it is the only way to stop this kind of legislation, otherwise we knock one down and another will crop up.

Revived · 1 year

You're damn right i'm tired. But please don't stop...knowing you guys and gals are struggling with me keeps me going.

Give me liberty or give me death. I know now what it means.

3R1CtheBR0WN · 1 year

Yes, we are all just sooooo tired of copy/pasting strongly worded emails and sending them to our congressmen. I can't imagine working any harder than that.

[deleted] · 1 year

I'm starting to wonder why more and more posts are titled "man we're all so tired blah blah acta".

Kind of detrimental to the whole thing, and it's weird that the specific word is used pretty often.

aa430 · 1 year

OP, this is a really generic call to action. you did not provide a petition to sign or any possible strategies to fight acta. you raised awareness, yes, but by saying we need to fight it. annnnd people love being told what they should be and shouldn't be doing.

people in r/acta are the fighters, those of us in r/politics are cheering onlookers. i think the real question is, "how do we mobilize anti-censorship sentiment to action? how to eliminate apathy among internet people i.e. the notion that someone else will fight internet censorship for them?"

soThisIsHowItEnds · 1 year

Hit me up when the fighting starts, otherwise I need to be informed on many other things going on that I need to be paranoid about.

Stock 1 months supply of water for yourself (if you have more than yourself to worry about stock enough for that many)

Stock 1 months supply of food (same goes for the top)

Shit just got real folks. They have signed so many bills in the past few months that martial law will be declared. We are sending a ship that is going to be decommissioned to the gulf near Iran in an intimidation tactic. This will probably cause Iran to strike and propel us into WW3. Don't be a sucker. For once be a hipster: "I knew the world was going to get fucked up before it became mainstream."

Larhalt · 1 year

y'all tired of what? ramblings on the internet and a couple of your favorite websites going down a few hours?

boom929 · 1 year

So help us out and give us some links.

prkchpsnaplsaws · 1 year

So what can we do besides wait on it to come to the states? Voice opposition? Im against it.

Call a canadian? And say what? "listen to me...I'm american" ?

kqt65720 · 1 year

This begs the question whether or not the role of internet regulation belongs to the government? If the powers that be are successful in their recent efforts to regulate the internet, then individuals under these provisions would experience a limited exposure to the diverse music industry. Someone ought to tell the musical artists that they could potentially lose a significant portion of their fan-bases. And if the musicians stand by this notion then the answer to the question becomes clear.

ex_ample · 1 year

That's important, but ACTA itself wont carry legal weight unless it's implemented in countries directly by legislation.

Just look what happened with the Kyoto treaty on greenhouse gas. Jack shit. Bills like SOPA, C-11 or whatever in Canada, HADOPI in France - those are things you have to kill. They're all related to ACTA and the international lobbying that goes on over IP, but the treaty itself doesn't carry power.

stupidfuckhead · 1 year

Guys it's up to us to save the world again, we are the only ones brave enough.

emohipster · 1 year

It's going to pass, mark my words. The whole world rose for the American internet users when SOPA and PIPA were about to be discussed, but now that countless countries over the whole world are passing this ACTA bill, no one gives a shit.

haidaguy · 1 year

I was just thinking about making a post about this a few hours ago.

Yes! First of all

Second. It's time for us to show that we will not back down, no matter how many times someone throws this stuff at us.

We need to flex our muscle as an international community.

Let's fight, Reddit.

outtanutmeds · 1 year

You can't beat these bastards. We are seeing "1984" become a reality, and it has been in the works for some time. The Powers never anticipated the internet in their strategic planning, though. So, they have to get control of the net, or else we will become so filled with knowledge and information, we might just become an actual threat.

LeviathonI · 1 year

YES!!!! SOPA and PIPA were just smokescreens for ACTA. This needs to be stopped.

Greaseball01 · 1 year

You've just got to give it time, it took months to get everybody informed on SOPA and it's lameness, we need to give ACTA the same amount of time, if we have it, which I'm not sure if we do.

specialkallday · 1 year

I want acta to be passed, and I wanted SOPA to be passed. Only when the majority of people see the overbearing and blatantly unlawful acts of our "representatives", will people finally truly unite to re-establish their power as declared in the constitution; I will support anything that hastens our awerness to the inequality that has been forced upon us.

anothershittyUN · 1 year

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watershot · 1 year

Instead of these silly "call-to-arms" post, just do your part at r/acta.

totem56 · 1 year

We need to stop it...

skt03 · 1 year

Sorry but this is true....

If Google and Wikipedia don't care... Yao Ming...

yahman420 · 1 year

with our powers combined!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mfisk323 · 1 year

I really think all of you should read this, and stop freaking out people

VirtualAnarchy · 1 year

Too tired to capitalize 'We'?

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