Catalyst, Dancer or Mojolicious?

und3f · 3 months

I used the Mojolicious and Catalyst.

The main problem of Mojolicious is that development team knows nothing about stability. They deprecate old stable API and change it with experimental that will be changed soon. It is pain.

Catalyst requires a lot of dependencies, but it has stable API. Project that has been build on Catalyst two years ago still works without any modifications. I can't say same about Mojolicious — you have to change your projects regularly if you want to use latest Mojolicious version.

elb0w · 4 months

Not to put catalyst down. Its just overkill the majority of the time as some others have stated.

Honestly, the only reason I do web dev in perl is to use Mojolicious. It is rapidly developed and all the devs are meticulous. I have tried finding another framework in any other language that compares and I have not. I would highly advise learning that.

If you want to get a job at a company it is usually mod_perl2 that is deployed on an apache server. This is my experience in Finance at least. 9 times out of 10 they ask for mod_perl experience. Catalyst would probably be next, but I think ive seen it once in my field in the past 5 years.

coder_kate · 4 months

Yes, Catalyst. It's a much bigger framework than the other two, so more suited to heavy lifting of larger, more complex sites - which is what companies tend to have. And if you understand Catalyst, you can scale down to the other two more easily than up from Dancer or Mojolicious to Catalyst.

[deleted] · 4 months

First learn Dancer (because it's easy and quick to learn).
Then learn Mojolicious (because it's "just right" when Dancer isn't enough).
Finally, learn Catalyst (industrial-strength but overkill for most sites).

x3nu · 4 months

IMHO Dancer is easiest to pick up so I'm recommending it.

draxil · 3 months

It's a hard question to answer when you don't have an immediate task to solve as they are good for different types of project.

Given that your aim is to impress an employer; if I were looking to employ you I probably wouldn't care which you knew something well and could demonstrate some nice code you'd written. I'd pick one (see other comments for the pluses and minuses) and then write something useful with it. Most employers are more interested in finding someone with an aptitude for coding than someone who has just crammed a particular API.

cavemonkey · 3 months

I’ve had success knocking out a couple of small projects using Dancer. Pretty easy to pick up.

YouLie · 3 months

CGI::Application - small projects

Catalyst - medium / large projects

Gantry - CRUD UI+Database+HTTP in one shell command

fansipans · 4 months

+1 for Catalyst.

The first full-time Perl job I had was supporting & extending a large Catalyst application.

mithaldu · 4 months

Catalyst. I know of no company that uses Dancer or Mojolicious, mostly by dint of them being new.

tcl_pink · 4 months

Catalyst is the one that might take a few hours to learn. If you are familiar with Ruby's Sinatra then you can grok Mojo and Dancer(admittedly styled in the vein of Sinatra) in a few minutes. In fact, understanding Sinatra will get you far in a lot of recent frameworks (PHP's Slim, Node.js' Express, Scala's Scalatra, Python's Flask, etc.)

Personally, I'd recommend just strengthening up your Perl skills in general if that's the language you are set on. Frameworks are convenient abstractions/extensions of the the underlying language. If you're interested in the web, read and know HTTP specs fluently (Oreilly's Book, HTTP:The Definitive Guide, is excellent.). Also, keep an eye out for newer webstacks that are starting to use websockets as some of the existing frameworks are already looking antiquated. A good example of this is the recent blog post describing the stack used by Fogcreek Software for their Trello project (http://blog.fogcreek.com/the-trello-tech-stack/). The "Modern Web" is here already and some are not even aware of it. This is another great post (http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2011/11/15/modern-web-applications-are-here/) by the author of Flask who is well-regarded in the Python community.

deathwish644 · 4 months

Never heard of Mojolicious or Catalyst; however, I have just recently finished some work with Dancer and do have to say it is really easy to pick up but there are some things that require logic to make work your way.

pure_silence · 4 months

Neither.

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