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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

That's a sweet deal, lenovo is a solid build.

[–]AchMeinGott 0 points1 point ago

This is a great deal. Lenovo is pretty heavily recommended amongst the tech crowds.

[–]MythicVoid[S] 0 points1 point ago

I am silly with these things, what has changed? The video card? Also, I see you took down the hard drive space. Totally fine with that last one.

[–]Tokeli 5 points6 points ago

You aren't gonna be playing a damned thing on that Toshiba, since it has an integrated card. The ASUS is pretty damn good though, and it will be able to play BF3.

[–]bo1024 4 points5 points ago

there is also /r/suggestalaptop

[–]kiff78 4 points5 points ago

Out of those 2, I'd go for Asus.

But you have to keep in mind that its a 17" gaming laptop, very heavy and not so long battery life. Check out the Alienware m11x for something with decent gaming in a small package. Also, I'm not sure if you know this already but there is a 15" version of the Asus one.

[–]halflife22 2 points3 points ago

+1 for the m11x. I'm typing my comment from mine and it is simply the best laptop I've ever used. Build quality is solid. Keyboard is amazing once you get used to the small size. The ability to change the colors of everything is really cool.

The 11" screen isn't optimal for gaming, but an a standalone monitor and an hdmi cable solve that easily.

[–]shihchiun 2 points3 points ago

If those are the only two options, go with the Asus. The Toshiba has no graphics power to speak of.

[–]KingLeonidus117 0 points1 point ago

Seconded on the Asus. I've a similar model myself, those things practically run most modern games on high settings with ease. Keep in mind though, you're not gonna get much battery life out of it.

[–]TheDreamerofWorlds 0 points1 point ago

i agree with what shihchiun said, toshiba's are terrible. i would go with the asus, while its much more expensive, you WILL be getting your moneys worth.

[–]o__g 0 points1 point ago

I have the G74, and it's pretty awesome! I play Skyrim on 1080p, ULTRA, and I usually get 50-60 fps (except when I'm downloading that damn BF3 patch). BF3, will unfortunately not play on ULTRA on 1080p smoothly, however it will work on 720p.

Most games, you can also play in 3d, if you put it to 720p. And you won't even notice the difference, as the G74 has a high DPI.

I recommend buying it.

[–]Diosjenin 0 points1 point ago

The Lenovo that anothertran posted is a great build, except for the screen resolution; 1366x768 is kind of paltry for gaming purposes.

This has nearly identical hardware with a 15.6" 1920x1080 screen; the upgrade to a 2670QM is $80, and the 8GB RAM is free. My current laptop is a previous-gen version of this, bought through the same place, and I love it. Whether it's worth the extra $160 over the Lenovo for a higher-res screen and a slightly larger form factor (personally I can't do without a number pad) is up to you.

[–]MythicVoid[S] 0 points1 point ago

I have been working with a ''13 Macbook pro for a year now. Would you think I would notice the difference with that Lenevo?

[–]Diosjenin 0 points1 point ago

Other than the 2.6" larger diagonal screen size? No idea. What are your Macbook's specs? (Might also help to define what you think of as a "difference" :P)

[–]MythicVoid[S] 0 points1 point ago

These are my specs at the moment. http://support.apple.com/kb/SP583

What I was asking was would I notice that big of a difference coming from my standpoint with the one anothertran posted and the one you posted?

[–]Diosjenin 0 points1 point ago

Oh good Lord, I thought Macbook Pros had at least moved to Arrandale...

Okay, long story short: you'll notice a big difference moving from your Macbook to just about any laptop you or anyone else has posted in this thread. The specs on yours are maybe one step up from than the specs on a $1400 Toshiba I bought four and a half years ago.

[–]MythicVoid[S] 0 points1 point ago

Sorry to ask you one more question, and I thank you so much for you time. The Leveno versus the Asus. What would I be missing out on if I got the Leveno?

[–]Diosjenin 0 points1 point ago

The Sager has a full-HD (1920x1080) screen, so HD movies look their best and games show you more of their glory. My laptop has a GeForce 425M (previous-gen version and a tier down from the 555M on the Sager) and it runs pretty much everything I can throw at it without trouble at 1920x1080. Every so often I'll have to leave antialiasing off, but everything else I can pretty much always turn up to full detail and still get >30fps. The 555M will run better. So probably no worries about screen resolution forcing you to turn down graphics detail.

The Lenovo is smaller in size, weight, and screen resolution. If mobility is a top concern for you (and maybe it is, after dealing with a 13" Macbook for so long), you won't go wrong with the Lenovo. Its screen resolution is still one step up from your Macbook anyway, and you could always plug an LCD monitor (or TV) into the HDMI port and get your high resolution gaming on that way. The Sager isn't big, mind you - 15.6" screen size and 5-6 pounds is pretty much standard - it's just that the Lenovo is smaller.

So if you're okay with the extra size and weight, and you don't mind spending the extra ~$160 for what is essentially a screen resolution upgrade, get the Sager. Like I said, just be sure to get the 2670QM processor and 8GB RAM and the specs will be exactly those of the Lenovo.

Any other questions, feel free to ask. :)

[–]xot 0 points1 point ago

The Asus is 9.4lbs. thats ridiculously heavy!

[–]meffjoew -1 points0 points ago

http://i42.tinypic.com/153vfax.png 'nuff said, just don't forget to thank Ryan.

[–]spazzmckiwi 0 points1 point ago

I still think there are a lot of use cases missing from this flowchart. What about the guy who doesn't want to get a gaming laptop, so with that intention he saves his money and gets a machine at about $500. He doesn't need much storage at all and doesn't "download files off the internet" like it was stated on the diagram. Instead, he takes advantage of cloud storage whenever possible. There is no longer a need for him to store 200GB of music on his laptop because he has a beefed up google music account. He also uses an OS that is free and has a smaller footprint than Windows, and in fact, he can run everything he would run on Windows (basically just a browser, word processor, and if he's a CS major an assload of development tools that are in fact unique to GNU too) on a GNU/Linux distro, so go goes that route, especially because he never has to worry about removing bloatware. Because the amount of storage he needs is so small, he goes ahead and gets a small SSD (60-128GB), which is shock resistant (great for a machine which will get knocked around a lot as it's carried all across campus), boots up incredibly fast (resumes from hibernate in about 2-5 seconds), uses less energy (however this only negligibly affects battery life), produces less heat, and is quieter.

Now, about the whole USB3.0 thing not being needed, I'm not really sure when this was written, but today it can definitely help to have 1 or 2 USB3 ports in some cases. For instance, in the event that the guy that went with the $500 laptop ($600 after he upgraded the SSD) does want to couple some local storage with the small yet fast SSD, he could get a sizable USB3 external drive. While USB is still a very slow method for transfer rates, the third generation makes a considerable improvement over 2.0, so he will have better iops when using his external drive.

Also, I'm not completely sure why MS Office is automatically suggested. Especially if all they really need is a word processor. I've tried to turn on many of my friends to different FOSS alternatives, but a lot of them really just don't comare. I do agree that Office is many times better for most things. However, if they are only writing papers with this thing, and don't have to deal with spreadsheets or power point presentations, LibreOffice or even Google Docs will probably suffice.

[–]Cognoggin 0 points1 point ago

The Asus with the GTX 560M is the way to go. Integrated IBM video chipsets are not adequate for gaming.