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[–]mattontheinternet 16 points17 points ago

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Clan Jade Falcon is calling you.

[–]umilmi81 6 points7 points ago

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Inner Sphere is out gunned, but they've got heart.

[–]Rayeth 4 points5 points ago

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Ghost Bear for life!

[–]canada432 1 point2 points ago

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Hellz yeah ghost bears. Don't provoke the sleeping bear.

[–]sirusdv -1 points0 points ago

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Taurian Concordat will wreck you.

[–]kormgar 13 points14 points ago

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I loved Mechwarrior II

But what I really, truly loved was a game built on the Mechwarrior II engine

Interstate 76

Hell Yeah

[–]bitter_cynical_angry[S] 6 points7 points ago* 

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I regret I have but one upload [edit: upVOTE, I mean] to give for I-76. Hans Zimmer may be scoring Modern Warfare 2, but it will never be possible to top the glory that was the I-76 soundtrack.

[–]Hides-His-Eyes 0 points1 point ago

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Seriously, what a game. Such a shame i can never get it running.

[–]kormgar 0 points1 point ago

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[–]Hides-His-Eyes 0 points1 point ago

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thanks!

[–]ours 0 points1 point ago

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Funk, guns and fast cars. Good times I'76. Shame on the sequel and all those responsible.

[–]kormgar 0 points1 point ago

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I still pretend that there was no sequel...

[–]Mnementh2230 45 points46 points ago

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You're not the only one. Mechwarrior 2 was an awesome game... and seeing as how Modern Warfare 2 has caved to the console crowd and the PC guys are only getting a shitty port, it is now dead to me.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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PC Game Piracy Examined - PC vs. Console (Pt.2)

Read "Is This Really a Problem?".

[–]bitter_cynical_angry[S] 0 points1 point ago* 

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Apparently I am the only one here who doesn't like MechWarrior...

[edit: oh sure, downvotes for honesty, I see how it is]

[edit 2: from -5 to +5 now, I'm getting whiplash]

[–]chungkaishek 10 points11 points ago

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I support your right to hold an absolutely incorrect opinion of a game. Upvoted!

[–]nazbot 17 points18 points ago

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Fail.

[–]Nessus 2 points3 points ago

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They just want you to know that we need to down vote it so it doesn't show up to save you the embarrassment.

[–]Swiftraven 1 point2 points ago

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Exactly. You should never be honest here when you have an unpopular opinion, that is common knowledge and you are being punished for not knowing it :)

[–]lalaland69 1 point2 points ago

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You could customize your mechs and then fight them in open ended and expansive (for the time) worlds. you had missions and waypoints. The only people who i met that didnt like mech warrior 2 were the ones who couldn't kill anyone or couldn't figure out the controls. I think it even had a lan play mode. It was the last great mechwarrior game

[–]bitter_cynical_angry[S] 1 point2 points ago

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Well you have now met someone who doesn't like the entire MechWarrior universe due to its unrealism and inherent impracticality. For instance, why is there no effective air power in the MW universe? The longest range weapon as I recall is the Gauss Rifle, range 4 or 5 km. An Apache gunship could put 8 Hellfire missiles into a mech from twice that range. An A-10 could pop it with a Maverick from 5 times that range. An F-16 could drop a 2000lb LGB on it. Etc.

[–]BeastMagnum 2 points3 points ago

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This whole realism in games really bothers me. Why on earth anyone would want to compare any video game to real life is beyond me. I play games in order to escape from reality not to see accurately they show reality.

[–]bitter_cynical_angry[S] 4 points5 points ago

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Well I guess we play games for different reasons then. :-D

[–]BeastMagnum 3 points4 points ago

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Fair enough

[–]dregan 0 points1 point ago

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yeah, I thought that too, then I became terribly addicted to The Sims. I couldn't understand why I played it so much, I really didn't even enjoy the game but I still kept playing.

[–]ericanderton 2 points3 points ago

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IIRC, there are "aerotech" fighter planes in the tabletop equivalent, but they are largely ineffective against mechs.

[–]bitter_cynical_angry[S] 1 point2 points ago

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Which is extremely puzzling to me, considering that a mech is just like a tank, except way bigger and harder to camouflage and with less effective armor, and it's been demonstrated since WWII that airpower trumps tanks every time. The only way to keep enemy airplanes from popping your tanks at will is to use your planes to kill their planes and gain air superiority, at which point you then use your planes to pop their tanks.

[–]G_Morgan 4 points5 points ago* 

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It isn't ineffective as such. The problem is that nobody actually knows how the mechs work. The aerotech even less so. It just happens to be the case that:

  1. The automated mech production facilities did better during the galactic nuclear holocaust than the aerotech.

  2. A lot of snobbery about mechs being the proper way to fight wars.

Despite this aerotech can do a lot of damage to mechs but a key point is the mech design is modular and can be repaired relatively simply in the field. Attrition losses among mech forces are rarer. When an aerofighter goes down it stays down. So they are rarer and harder to replace. They also can't go to all the places a mech can. Mechs have had fights on the bottom of the ocean and in jungle arenas.

Later in the history the aerotech takes on a larger role. In fact it was the combined arms exercises that stopped the clans.

Also you overstate the relevance of air power. If anything WW2 proved that the belief that air power would rule all was overstated. Since then there hasn't been many engagements of air against ground forces but air power was practically irrelevant in both Vietnam and Korea. Consistently air power proves nearly useless against infantry and does slightly better against armour.

[–]bitter_cynical_angry[S] 1 point2 points ago

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I just wanted to clarify that I never intended to be understood as saying that "airpower rules all", but I stand by my statement that it rules over armor (and ships, but that's beside the point here). WWII proved that airpower couldn't win the war on its own, but strategic airpower was still a major factor. Tactical airpower is what I'm talking about here though. There was relatively little call for anti-tank planes in Korea, and much less in Vietnam, but I think the air campaign that opened Gulf War I, for instance, is a pretty good illustration of what planes with decent technology can do to armor.

Perhaps if any of the MechWarrior games had been set during this period of combined arms I might have found it more interesting, but that does still leave unaddressed the range issue.

[–]rfvijn 1 point2 points ago

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There are in universe explanations for all of those things. I would explain them, but it would take forever.

[–]bitter_cynical_angry[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I'm sure there are, just like there are in-universe explanations for Star Trek's dilithium crystals, and for why Star Wars lasers can be seen in space and fly at less than the speed of light. And I would listen, but I'm pretty sure I would dismiss it all as technobabble anyway (nothing personal). Some things I'm willing to suspend disbelief for, some I'm not. I was willing for a while with MechWarrior, and then it just got too cheesy.

[–]dregan 1 point2 points ago

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When there are giant, fighting robots involved, you don't babble on about "realism" and "practicality," you just sit back and enjoy the ride!

[–]bitter_cynical_angry[S] 0 points1 point ago

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No. When there are giant fighting robots you point and laugh and mock their unrealism and the people who find it enjoyable. It's like trying to claim that pro wrestling has anything remotely to do with real physical combat. It's a soap opera for men. If you like soap operas, fine, but my suspension of disbelief has higher standards.

[–]McHoff -3 points-2 points ago

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Nope -- my old Matrox card came with MW2, and I thought it was just plain boring.

[–]vanguard_anon 0 points1 point ago

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Modern Warfare 2 has caved to the console crowd

How exactly are console gamers to blame for all of this?

[–]NSMike 1 point2 points ago

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Who blamed console gamers? The companies want to make money easy, so they make a game for the console, and do their obligatory stab at the PC market with a half-assed port.

[–]Cbird54 0 points1 point ago

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OOoooh I was wondering why people were excited about Mech Warrior 2. Yeah I don't see how you can take MW2 and make Moder Warfare 2 when MW2 has meant Mech Warrior 2 for like 15 years.

[–]KaptainKrunch 0 points1 point ago

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A shitty port for the PC? Explain please?

[–]Mnementh2230 0 points1 point ago

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ModernWarfare 2 is getting developed for the console, so it will have console-like limitations. No prone position, no dedicated servers, no mods, and a few other "no"s that other modern FPS games have.

[–]KaptainKrunch 0 points1 point ago

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da fuk?

[–]Mnementh2230 0 points1 point ago

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Infinity Ward isn't going to implement those for the PC.. sux, I know.

[–]Freeky 9 points10 points ago

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Reminds me, I wonder if that free MW4 release is getting anywhere.

[–]sgamer 1 point2 points ago* 

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Yeah where the hell is that download? I call shenanigans.

Edit: Check this link for further status on the free version. The last update says they made some progress on it on the 14th. Itching to try and get it now....

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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They're already planning a fourth one? Jeez, wait for the 2nd one to come out first, amirite?

[–]kahureads 2 points3 points ago

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No, 4 is out, it's just that it's now going to be distributed as freeware (or so they said months ago, but no download has appeared yet).

It's a promotion for a rebirth of the series in high graphics, but apparently they've run into some copyright troubles with making this new game.

[–]canada432 2 points3 points ago* 

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Indeed. They used visual renditions of the "unseen" mechs in the new game and harmony gold decided to jump in.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points ago

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Yep. I do the same thing. I've had to train myself not to, but there's still a voice in the back of my head shouting "MECHWARRIOR 2, MECHWARRIOR 2!!!!"

[–]Valkador 2 points3 points ago

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The best I can do is 'Mech Warfare 2'

[–]Flatlander81 17 points18 points ago

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What you mean they've been talking about Modern Warfare all this time!?

[–]supertoned 14 points15 points ago

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No, me too. MW2 was such a great game, for a few days I was tricked into thinking people were still talking about it.

[–]ang3c0 5 points6 points ago* 

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Reactor: Online, Sensors: Online, Weapons: Online,

All systems nominal--

[–]TacoDiablo 12 points13 points ago

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I actually think Morrowind 2 first, which is very strange for obvious reasons.

[–]EchoNoise 5 points6 points ago

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That is very strange for oblivious reasons.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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I was going to suggest MorroWind 2!

[–]Thought_Tank 0 points1 point ago

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I don't even dare to dream about that. It could be so incredible

[–]mao_neko 2 points3 points ago

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Check out the Tamriel Rebuilt project if you haven't already. With enough mods (BB, MWSE, MWGE spring to mind), it's pretty much a Morrowind 2 already.

[–]BubbaBrown 3 points4 points ago

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That's the one genre I dearly miss, apart from an honest Fallout sequel. I miss doing a quad LRM-20 swarm or playing the heat management game with ER PPC's.

[–]somethingmetal 0 points1 point ago

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Ahhh, ER PPC's...

A love/hate relationship, surely...

[–]BubbaBrown 1 point2 points ago

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I know. You feel and seem like such a badass when they are blazing. But, when you are a few 100 Kelvin short of going into a forced reactor shutdown and can only stand there waiting for everything to cool down.... You look like such an idiot.

[–]G_Morgan 0 points1 point ago

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My favourite was ammo shortages with dual Ultra 20's. You could tear apart just about any mech for a grand total of 2 seconds. Then you are a walking harmless lump of metal.

[–]monkeymanD 2 points3 points ago

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In related news: I am a big fan of saying COD 4 2.

[–]65kerensky 3 points4 points ago

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Timberwolf!!

[–]disastrophe 2 points3 points ago

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Mad Cat!

[–]Ronem 2 points3 points ago

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Elemental!

[–]blackbrock 3 points4 points ago

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Ammunition depleted.

[–]darthchurro 4 points5 points ago

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[–]smcedged 2 points3 points ago

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Pavlov wins.

[–]Zach_Attack 2 points3 points ago

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I immediately think "stab in the back by iw"

[–]keikun17 2 points3 points ago

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MW2 and Mercenaries D: we need MW5 now..but...but... http://www.pcprimary.com/News/uh-oh-mechwarrior-5-in-legal-trouble.html

[–]hilo4321 0 points1 point ago

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MERCENARIES

love it

[–]skoll 2 points3 points ago

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I'm with you. I always read it as Mech Warrior 2 and then have to retranslate it to Modern Warfare 2. Tough habit to break.

[–]marshallw 2 points3 points ago

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Ejecting!

[–]lordnym 2 points3 points ago

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"We have mechs down at nav gamma, all available units please respond."

[–]Razed 3 points4 points ago

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Can't wait for MW5!!!!

[–]boot20 1 point2 points ago

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Yup....I keep doing it too. It brings me back to my Usenet days...

[–]zachl13 1 point2 points ago

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Thanks for reminding me of how much I miss mech warrior.

[–]lagasan 1 point2 points ago

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I do too. I also have the MW2 soundtrack ripped into mp3's on my hard drive, for when I'm feeling nostalgic.

[–]omnilynx 1 point2 points ago

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I've never even played Mech Warrior and I think this.

[–]Unturned1 1 point2 points ago

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its a generational thing man.

[–]tobold 1 point2 points ago

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There's a game called Modern Wafare? And they made a sequel? ... huh.

[–]orznge 1 point2 points ago

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modern warfare 2: warfare harder

[–]Orchestral 1 point2 points ago

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I think I'm the huge freak.. Somehow I see NWN at a glance - neverwinter nights.

[–]NegativeCool 1 point2 points ago

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Mortal Wombat!

[–]manuelacon 1 point2 points ago

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Ah i said this the other day, makes me pine for Mechwarrior games...

[–]disastrophe 1 point2 points ago

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Me too, but then again, I recently finished Mechcommander 1 + 2, Mechwarrior 4, and am now balls-deep in the expansion. I'm also reading some of the novels. On a bit of a BattleTech kick recently.

[–]G_Morgan 0 points1 point ago

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If you haven't already read it I recommend the Warrior trilogy. It is out of print so you'll only find it second hand. Can go for quiet a price as well. I paid £20 for a copy of one of the books. Some of the older BattleTech novels go for silly prices like £100 second hand.

[–]disastrophe 0 points1 point ago

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I actually tracked down ebook versions of the Grey Death trilogy, the Warrior Trilogy, and Wolves on the Border. :) I also found the compilation of the Jade Phoenix trilogy on ebay pretty cheap. Jade Phoenix Trilogy was great, not so impressed with writing of the Grey Death ones - but the setting is good.

[–]rc1000 1 point2 points ago* 

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not with mw2, but when i see css i think counter-strike source..

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Mew 2 here.

[–]sirusdv 1 point2 points ago* 

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DFA

[–]vivvav 1 point2 points ago

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Well, I don't do this, but I always think "MK" is "Mario Kart" instead of "Mortal Kombat" (BOTH OF WHICH HAVE K WORDS WHICH DO NOT ACTUALLY START WITH K!)

[–]Fhel 1 point2 points ago

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MechWarrior 2 was tits. Modern Warfare 2 will be tits.

[–]bipedalshark 1 point2 points ago

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All the cool kids called it "mech2," so no, mr. not-cool kid.

[–]cunning_alias 0 points1 point ago

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Yep completely agree. mech2.exe was what you ran from dos. (feeling kinda old now) Thats what stuck for me and my mates. We still have mech 3 games every now and then.

Its the whole "MW5" has put the idea in peoples heads.

[–]statuskuo 0 points1 point ago

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yes

[–]BAMF 0 points1 point ago

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no but both are awesome games

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Nope. I thought the exact same thing the first time I saw it.

[–]einexile 0 points1 point ago

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When I see "MW2" I think about the $60 I'm going to spend on Arma II and Borderlands.

[–]funwithphobias 0 points1 point ago

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Medieval total War... 2?

[–]Morghus 0 points1 point ago

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I'm starting to feel old.

Wow...

[–]schmeebis 0 points1 point ago

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I do this as well. And now that Modern Warfare 2 is dead to me, I'll mentally urge myself to promote MechWarrior above Modern Warfare even more! :)

[–]SovereignZ 0 points1 point ago

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I wasn't sure if I was the only one doing that. Thanks as always reddit.

[–]Danthekilla 0 points1 point ago

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I call it Cod 4 - 2.

[–]BigCommieNat 0 points1 point ago

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which is exactly why I intend on calling it "C.O.D.4.2"

[–]OriginalSyn -1 points0 points ago

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COD4:MW2

[–]Luke2012 0 points1 point ago

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On a side note: just noticed MW2 on steam for $60. Is this going to start a trend in PC game prices?

[–]SexualHarasmentPanda 0 points1 point ago

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Maybe maybe not, Activision is just pissed no one is charging us $10 more for our "Next-gen" systems.

[–]SexualHarasmentPanda 0 points1 point ago

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Just wait for the new Mechwarrior, it's looking quite good.

[–]vanguard_anon 0 points1 point ago

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I wish MW2 was called COD6. If it's pronounced Cod, like the fish, it's a lot easier to say.

[–]jeepdays 0 points1 point ago

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I think of Molecular Weight = 2. Oh how college changes my thinking.

[–]bitter_cynical_angry[S] 1 point2 points ago

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That reminds me of a shibboleth that Isaac Asimov wrote about. Look at the word "unionize". Asimov claims that most people will see that as "union-ize", while a chemist (such as Asimov himself) will see it as "un-ionize".

[–]projecktzero 0 points1 point ago

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Yep.. and anytime I see GW2, I think Guild Wars 2 not Gears Of War 2.

[–]Daigojigai 0 points1 point ago

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Players that been in MW2 since Netmech 95 and KALI represent! Former Commander of the Wolf's Dragoons.... As soon as MW4 is re-released I will be hopping back in, getting a new batch of wetnosed mech pilots up to snuff for the relaunch of MECHWARRIOR by the FASA veterans.

So yes, MW2 = MechWarrior in my mind, not Modern Warfare 2...

LONG LIVE THE CLANS! DESTRUCTION TO THE INNER SPHERE!

[–]honorkell -1 points0 points ago

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I was in the NBT league for MW2 Mercs - Wolf in Exile!!!

[–]holysocks 0 points1 point ago

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liek GoW, Gears of War or God of War?

[–]THEMACGOD 0 points1 point ago

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No...

I LOVED that game... Would play it on my Performa 6115CD all the frappin' time. My buddy and I would also play direct head-to-head.

[–]honorkell 0 points1 point ago

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for god's sake look at my username.

Anyway - yeah I thought I was about to read an article on MW2 too, closed it immediately when I realized it wasn't. What's modern warfare 2 anyway? No giants battlemechs? don't care!

[–]spaceywilly 0 points1 point ago

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I actually call it MechWarrior 2 a lot by accident when I'm talking about it with my friends. Acronyms suck.

[–]shaze 0 points1 point ago

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Holy balls! I was just making an ass of myself (as usual) with a buddy talking about a new Mech Warrior game update and he pointed out it got cancelled.... :(

[–]trident042 0 points1 point ago

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I'm gonna be honest, I would think "Mario World 2" and wonder why A) the person didn't use SMW2, and then B) why they didn't just call it Yoshi's Island.

I don't have love for either other franchise. I once owned a Win95able copy of MW3, and played a mission or two in it, but kept getting distracted off to other games. I have a random, rare love for mech gaming.

[–]ahart 0 points1 point ago

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I would always see "Mario World 2". But someone pointed out that I was think of Super Mario World 2 (SMW2). There is no such thing as Mario World 2.

[–]Valdus_Pryme 0 points1 point ago

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I think MechWarrior 2 as well

[–]gonosis 0 points1 point ago* 

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I see at as "neverwinter nights 2"

god, no idea why. lol I've never even played the game.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Don't get me started on the acronym PotC for movies.

In fact, I'd like to conduct a poll -- what is the first movie that you think of when seeing that acronym?

[–]Don_Quijoder 2 points3 points ago

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I feel like I'm walking into a trap, but honestly Pirates of the Caribbean.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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No trap; it's just unfortunate that the same acronym works for Passion of the Christ and the two movies were released at similar times

[–]Don_Quijoder 1 point2 points ago

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Well, that movie(if we're talking about the same one) was titled The Passion of the Christ. Admittedly, had you asked about TPotC, I would not have known the answer.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points ago

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Modern Warfare.

Best FPS in 5 years. I'll respectfully disagree. A lot.

[–]OneManWar 6 points7 points ago

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Actually it'd be COD4:MW.

MW will forever be Mechwarrior's initials in most PC gamers hearts.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Oh, I didn't mean MW = Modern Warfare.

I was just stating the game and disagreeing with how he thought it was one of the best FPS games of all time.

[–]OriginalSyn -1 points0 points ago

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Your original comment is ambiguous and hard to decipher which is why you're probably being downvoted.

[–]benreeper -1 points0 points ago

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No.

[–]jones77 -4 points-3 points ago

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What a waste of a reddit.

[–]Cheddarwurst -2 points-1 points ago

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I keep calling it Call of Duty 5. Which I will continue to do.

[–]M80theWolf 1 point2 points ago

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World at War was the 5th I believe. Modern Warfare 2 should be number 6.

[–]Cheddarwurst 0 points1 point ago

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Maybe to some people it was the fifth. I stand by my numbering.

[–]orcdork -2 points-1 points ago

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Welcome to the internet gramps, I've got your walking cake and your subscription to "Off my lawn" gazette right here.

[–]trakus -3 points-2 points ago

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+1

[–]iSnakeTwoPointOh -1 points0 points ago

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I'M WITH YA, BROTHER!

[–]xtense -1 points0 points ago

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/signed