Reddit, a kennel allowed my dog to escape and be hit by a car while under their care. It did not survive. What action should I take against them, if any?

orangeclouds

how did he get away? carelessness? or an honest, unpreventable accident? as much as it hurts, seeking revenge doesn't bring Luke back... but if they were truly careless with your dog, then certainly that's inappropriate and shouldn't go unnoticed. I'm an animal lover, and I would be absolutely furious if this were to have happened to me and my dog.... so my heart truly goes out to you and your brother. If you could provide some more info though, that would be helpful for providing advice.

dallasdude

Probably this will be buried and unread, but I insure some commercial kennels. Their insurance policy and the law in general are probably gonna value the animal at "actual cash value". Its not a six figure race horse, and the dog being out didnt result in bodily injury to a person. Really the owner should just pony up and get you a puppy of same breed, outside of the insurance & courts. The law usually treats animals as property. Sorry for your loss.

jellicle

Your brother clearly has a legal claim against the kennel. Your brother should write an unemotional letter to the kennel laying out the facts ("I left the dog with you; you let the dog out; the dog died.") and requesting money. The kennel should apologize and make some offer of money. Your brother will decide whether that is acceptable or not. If no money is forthcoming I would proceed in small claims court - although the kennel should be insured for such accidents, so I would be surprised if there is no settlement offer. Note that pets aren't necessarily chattels and their "value" may not be limited to the replacement cost.

Here is a case, for example:

http://www.menufoodclaim.com/doc/Ferguson%20et%20al.%20v.%20Birchmount%20Boarding%20Kennels%20Limited%20et.htm

DarthContinent

Condolences. :-(

See how forthcoming and apologetic they are, if they're assholes then certainly I'd contact a lawyer and see whether you can sue them at least for the cash value of Luke.

levinsong

sorry for your loss. eye for an eye, run them over with cars.

smallfishbigpond

Sorry about your dog.

First thing, you need to realize that no action you take will bring the dog back. Also keep in mind that it really could have been a one-off accident. Got it? Good.

Second thing to do is make sure this doesn't happen to anyone else's dog. To do that I suppose you need a lawyer to help you organize an inspection of the facilities, get their records, names of employees etc, search for patterns of neglect, and so on. If your investigation turns up nothing, go back and re-read the first thing you need to do before proceeding. Also, it might be a good idea to re-read the contract that was signed when you boarded the dog. Does it release them from any liability?

If your investigation finds problems at the kennel then obviously you can try to get them fixed. I would think you could also get reimbursed for any vet bills incurred from trying to save the little woofer (it sounds like maybe there was a vet involved?). Again that probably depends on the terms of the contract that was signed.

Finally, think really hard about this: Poop happens all the time in this life. Maybe it really was an accident and maybe the person responsible already feels like crap. Do what you can to make sure the kennel has a clean record, but remember that Nothing you do will bring your dog back and in seeking retribution you will only make things worse.

Saydrah

There are two possibilities here: First, the kennel was negligent; in this case, in most states they would be at least liable for the replacement value of your "property." Since Luke was a purebred, you could file in small claims court for perhaps $1,000 or so. In most states the kennel will have liability insurance as mandated by law, so their insurance will probably cough up some sum. If you're lucky enough to live in a state that provides for emotional damages due to the loss of a pet, it might be worth getting a lawyer and filing for a more substantial sum.

However, most professionals who work with animals cannot be held liable for inherent risks of their profession. If the kennel was not negligent and the accident wouldn't have been prevented by anything they could be reasonable expected to do, then they are probably not liable. This goes both ways as well--in most cases, someone who chooses to work with animals professionally (for example, a vet tech) can't sue an animal's owner if they are injured in the course of performing their job, which has certain inherent risks.

So, the question is, did the kennel in fact do anything wrong, or is this a tragic accident that probably has been awful for them as well (though not as awful as losing a loved dog, of course)? If his kennel wasn't properly secured, that's one thing. If a drunken hobo somehow wandered in during the night and released the dog, which high-tailed it for home before anyone could react, that's a different scenario.

If you are certain they were negligent and you intend to take legal action, don't accept any restitution offered to you by the kennel voluntarily--that could be considered acknowledgment that you've been adequately compensated for your loss, meaning you'd be unable to receive any further damages from a lawsuit.

Please don't sue just because you're hurt and angry. If they did something wrong that resulted in the loss of a life, there's reason to sue--perhaps it would even prevent a negligent facility from harming other pets--but if it was an unpreventable accident, don't encourage your brother to prolong his grief with a frivolous lawsuit. It won't bring his dog back to have to go into a courtroom and try to put a cash value on his companion.

Send them an angry letter stating that they owe you 1 dog.

ronsta

It?

What was his/her name? Can you post a pic?

I mourn your loss.

heavysteve

That sucks man, I have 2 basenjis and they are pretty much impossible to catch if they get off leash. My younger one can climb a 6 foot chainlink fence without trouble, and the older one can work doorhandles.

I would be a wreck if anything happened to my dogs, but that is a risk with basenjis. Theyre really smart idiots. The kennel was probably ignorant to the extra care they require. If it was a golden retriever or something I would sue the balls of em, but unfortunately, the basenji was probably smarter then the kennel-workers

note - My older once got off his leash in the mountains in december in 4 feet of snow, I chased him for over an hour before he got stuck in a hole and I could catch him. Another time he chewed through his leash on a trip while out for a pee and took off down a busy 6 lane highway. I nearly got killed and nearly shit my pants trying to catch him then. Now he has a chain leash and a full harness.

MonkeyWrench

I am an American and I find the suggestion of extracting money from them repulsive as well. NO amount of money is going to replace Luke, it won't even make you feel better. There is nothing wrong with an explanation and a truly sincere apology but, to want money or expect a replacement of your dog as some have suggested? I think that is a disservice to Lukes' memory and perhaps anyone who would go that route, didn't truly love and appreciate their friend as much as they'd like to believe.

Just have them buy you a new dog, kennels and kennel workers dont make shit and their jobs suck.

peaty

Accidents happen I'm sorry for the lose but get over it.

TheBoyTucker

Rather than sue, approach the kennel in a friendly and professional manner and ask for compensation. If they are insured, which they should be, they will be insured against exactly this type of thing. You might save yourself hassle and legal fees.

nominus

I don't have any legal advice, and I'm not a big believer in suing the crap out of people over something that can easily be an honest accident. If this were to happen to me, I would simply ask (firmly) that the kennel take steps to make sure that it didn't happen again. If a fence was loose, replace it. If the ground is too easily dug by the dog to escape under a fence, install something permanent and concrete-like. Ask to inspect the area where your dog was and see if you can find anything that is amiss. If not, well, I wouldn't really expect the kennel owner to be held responsible then either.

Whitey4Obama

Dude, fuck anyone that bitches about you suing people for this. 'Shit happens' does not cover a fucking kennel, whose sole job is to take care of your dog, letting your dog escape and get run over.

They deserve to be sued and not just for monetary value. Sue them for whatever you can get and don't feel bad about it.

Unklebeavis

Somehow the phrases "Negligence" or "Breach of Contract" jump out at me.

NZFLE

Without getting too technical and not knowing all the facts I'd say it is quite likely that you have a pretty clear claim in negligence.

The only problem will be quantifying the damage you have suffered. Unfortunately the Court system puts a $ value on everything. IMO the value of something like a family pet can't be quantified in dollar terms.

You will probably be able to get back vet bills following the accident, how much you paid for the dog, the cost of storing it at the kennel and maybe some pecuniary damages for emotional distress.

Like people have said, you should see a lawyer regarding this and see if you think its worth pursuing it in light of their fees.

I'm sorry for your loss.

dinx2582

Yep. Contact a lawyer. This is unacceptable for a business that revolves around the safe-keeping of domesticated animals.

EDIT: I'm really sorry for you guys, by the way. Breaks my heart :(

GregoryHouse_MD

Reddit, a kennel allowed my dog to escape and be hit by a car while under their care. It did not survive. What action should I take against them, if any?

This is a troll. I know it's a troll because pet owners never refer to their dogs as "it". They refer to them as "HE" or "SHE" like family members.

Nice try asshole. Now go back to whatever hole in the wall you came from -- was it Digg or 4chan?

Thrillho-

The correct action is: Legal action.

whatevesbro

Damn, my condolences.

gears28

"it somehow escaped" yeah, Its a dog.. thats what they do...

how is that someones fault?

Maybe they'll let you sleep with some of the help?

cammycam

If it's a non-profit org that exists to save animals on the side, don't sue. If it's a for profit kennel that goes cheap on the animal care so the family doesn't have to get up and drive to work every day, with no other redeeming qualities, sue the hell out of them with the hopes that they go out of business and can't do this to another animal again.

Metal_Mike

Your local TV news will absolutely love this, if you want to go the public shame route.

SEEK

MOTHERFUCKING SEEK

SEEK AND DESTROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY

spacefish

A little background first on my feelings about canines first.

I got my dog, chewbacca, when he was just old enough to be given away. I got him at the pound because someone abandoned his litter. He was my first dog that was MINE. I grew up next to a highway and my parents didn't want to go through the exercise of explaining a dead dog to a little kid. So it was a fairly big deal for me to finally go and get one of my own. He's 3 now and he is AWESOME. All of his various traits combine to make a dog that is a perfect little buddy for me. I don't consider him human, or to be like my child, because he is not. Nonetheless he is a highly valued and irreplaceable part of my family, and in THAT respect I treat him like a human, because I would defend him from harm with the same fervor that I would with any of my family members.

About 4 or 5 years ago my wife's dog died of cancer. The vet my wife brought her to was a total jack-ass about it. Now I realize that nothing would have reversed the final outcome of the situation, since she started being sick and degraded to the point of death within a week. But regardless of that I still wanted to go to the vet and just not leave until the man was bawling because that my friend is reciprocity.

So. I am sure the kennel workers, as well as the owners feel terrible about this. You don't start a business like that unless you love animals. I mean LOVE. Just think about being around that many animals all the time. Dogs are my favorite pet and that would drive me right the fuck out of my mind. They probably feel even worse about it, because they know what it means to be attached, and now due to actions which occurred under their supervision someone lost their dog, so they have to worry about the possible repercussions of this as a legal entity.

Now part of me wants to say, drag them right the hell over the coals, but that won't fix anything, and will just be a seed of ill intent. Here's what I think though. Your brother should search high and low for a shelter dog, and then the kennel should pay all the fees associated with getting the dog.

fucktoy

Sorry for your loss. I think everyone else covered it, I just wanted to say that he's gorgeous. I had a basenji when I was a kid. :)

TheShrO_Om

see how they react, say you're going to make this public and destroy they're income and reputation as a company then see what happens.

hobbitlover

I'm no law-talking-guy, but all this advice about waiting to see what happened before taking any action is kind of silly because it assumes that the kennel owner will be honest about any lapse if this goes to trial. If you take a legal position, then the owner can say anything, place the blame on an employee, point to a broken lock, whatever. The only issue that is relevant is the dead dog and what constitutes fair compensation to a paying customer — restaurants comp your meal when the waiter spills soup in your lap, kennels that are in charge of a dog that escapes and gets hit by a car should by you a new dog. If they don't, you never eat there again...

JanJoost

If you're American: sue. If you live anywhere else: Grief, find some good pictures, have them printed, frame the picture, hang it somewhere nice. The good people at the kennel probably feel terrible as well about this.

hellokittie

I would write a one star google review on them saying how they let my dog die if no adequate apology was given.

zimmian

I'm sorry for your loss. I had a red basinji who looked just like Luke. He died at 13 of bone cancer.

That dude could get out of anywhere though. It was impossible to put him somewhere he didn't want to be. He even chewed through a 2" wood door to get inside one weekend.

Most proper kennels have two sets of doors everywhere to catch those squirrelly dogs from running out between your legs. I would expect them to change the way their shop is set up at the very least.

eugenesbluegenes

I think yelp and/or any kennel/vet review websites need to hear about it. And I'm so sorry.

rr360405

The best thing you can do is write plenty of online reviews about the place. Also word of mouth. Let social networking do it's work. People won't want their babies to have the same fate as yours did. Also, you can sue them. But you can really only sue them for the amount you paid for boarding, perhaps the dog, and emotional damage. But when it comes down to it, is the money going to bring your dog back? I'm sorry, but it isn't (obviously), and that's something you should consider. I was raised by attorneys (parents, uncles, grandparents, cousins, etc.), so I'm certainly not an attorney, but I've learned a thing or two, and sometimes it just isn't worth the fight.

EDIT Oh, and you may be able to sue the individual on duty that was in charge of taking care of your dog. But before you do this, find out the whole story. If this was a total freak accident, you might not want to pursue a lawsuit on an individual. Good luck with whatever you do. You should keep us posted

I am very sorry to hear about what happened to your dog.

The truly unfortunate thing is that in most states, suing for damages in something like this will probably be fruitless. As with trying to sue a vet for a dog that dies in their care- even with negligence- they will be responsible for the monetary value of the animal, and nothing more. As a result, you might end up with $400 or whatever the "replacement" cost would be- and I know full well that a dog is not replaceable in this sense, but that is how it will most likely be viewed legally. Moreover, the city will most likely take the stance that the dog's life was already in danger by roaming free.

Perhaps your state is different, and while I encourage you to check with a lawyer, I wouldn't hold out hope that anyone will be held responsible. As a result, your best option might be to try to affect change within the organization: find out what happened, and get that procedure to be changed.

iorgfeflkd

If that had happened to my dog, I would not be able to restrain myself. In fact, just reading this I am barely able to restrain myself.

I loved that dog more than anyone and anything.

boeing82

You refer to your dog as "it"?

AnnArchist

I'd probably sue them.

ApathyJacks

Nuke them from orbit.

col381

I feel for you - it's horrible to have your dog get killed, but put yourself in the kennels position. They almost certainly did not 'let' your dog escape, your dog saw an opportunity and took it and unfortunately got run over. I don't call this neglegant, I call this 'shit happens'. As unfortunate as it is, this sounds like it was nobody's fault but the dogs. Best to leave it at that and move on. Sorry for your loss dude.

cat_mech

People are just jumping on the 'grab me some money' train because they don't have the presence of mind to realize that getting money isn't going to make it hurt less. That's just North American litigation society rearing it's ignorant head. It's not that you have no claim to money, it's that if you are asking about a real issue of suffering, suing people as your first reaction is demeaning to your pal's memory.

I think what you should do is write a letter to the owner of the kennel and explain to them how much your companion meant to your family. Immediately asking for money is just opportunistic and shameful- it just reduces your friend to a dollar value. If you want real resolution, you need to see that the person responsible actually understands the pain they have caused and feels real remorse for what they did. Not to hurt them, but so you can see that a genuine empathy for your suffering has occurred.

Maybe expressing in the letter just what your pal meant to your brother might give you a little more peace of mind than the people who can only see things in 'how much can I grab and how fast?' terms if you can convey to the people responsible that what they should be doing, and no one should have to ask them this, is to go to your brother and look him in the face when they offer an actual heartfelt apology.

In a situation like this, I think having the other person understand how much it hurts and feeling genuine remorse and regret for their error and the pain it caused your family, would be a lot more cathartic and resolve the heavy emotional issues involved. If you want revenge, there is nothing more brutal than living with the understanding of how you hurt someone and how you can never change it.

Anyone who is telling you you should be vulturing for money as fast as you can just lacks real life experience and maturity. Ask yourself what would give your brother more resolution, a handful of bills that had to be wrestled from the person, or to see that they really understood how much it hurt and that that genuinely felt remorse.

It actually kinda saddens me to see how many people are so shallow that all they could think of was replacing a companion with a dollar value. That doesn't make things hurt less, unless you are a socio-path, and that being your first reaction demeans and puts a number value on the pain losing your companion caused you.

I guess if you don't like it you can always sue me?

lightslash53

Until i know what happened, i will reserve judgement, idiots who say sue right away are being stupid. I work in a vet hospital and you can never tell WTF an animal will do, one second they can be perfectly calm the next they could start attacking you, and dogs behave differently around different people so none of that,"oh fido would never do anything like that" nonsense, animals are unpredictable try to hear out the kennels story even if you don't want to.

When you find out more please tell, until then, i can imagine about 100 different situations where this was unpreventable.

Also what kind-size of dog, a large dog can easily overpower a person, and a small dog could easily slip out of a persons hands.

And also, did the kennel "allow your dog to escape" or was it accidental, im getting a bit annoyed with people who have extremely biased titles.

valduchi

I don't know what you should do, but I am really sorry this happened. It really sucks.

Meades_Loves_Memes

How about mourn your dog and get on with life. Don't help the stereotype that Americans sue for anything.

chompy_jr

I'm real sorry about Luke. Personally, I wouldn't sue. I'd be upset but not enough to hire a lawyer. As Americans we're a bit too litigious IMO.

In a perfect world the owner of the kennel would be apologetic and offer something as compensation starting with a heartfelt "I'm soooo sorry".

Even if the worst happens and the kennel owner happens to be a raging asshole, meh, sucks to be them. karma can be a bitch. I'd just move forward.

sharky1

I would sue their asses. Imcompetent people should not be allowed to run a business. That is the biggest priority, to keep your animals safe while in their care.

Sorry for your loss :(

thedevilyousay

JUDGE JUDY FOR FUCKING SURE.

dumsumguy

Molotov cocktails are a personal favorite.

spenroe

As someone who has worked in a kennel. Basenji's are crazy ass dogs. Sorry for your loss.

shamanicspacebum

I think you are entitled to something too. I know that sentimental loss can't be replaced and you shouldn't try. But the dog was an investment for your family and that money is now gone because of their carelessness.

Hopefully the kennel will see reason. "unpreventable accident." Yeah.. I would like to hear some details on that.

wjp3

I'm terrified this might happen to my two dogs. I'm sorry for your loss. Sometimes I look at how attached I am to my dogs and think it's ridiculous, but dammit, they're family.

disinforeddit

Get a lawyer, you need to prove negligence and review the contract you had with them. You may have signed your rights away already. If you didn't sign away any rights and you can prove negligence.. then you are entitled to a civil lawsuit for damages plus pain and suffering, etc...

You also need to take into consideration who runs the Kennel and why.. if it's a large financial operation that makes a lot of money.. sue their ass off, if it's a mom and pop operation that simply does it to help the community at cost.. you may want to reconsider.

theloudestshoutout

From a legal standpoint, you're probably entitled to some financial compensation.

From society's standpoint, you're not entitled to clog the judicial system with a frivolous lawsuit to compensate you for the loss of a companion that you referred to as an "it" as opposed to him/her. I mean, you can, but you shouldn't.

Land of the free (to waste everyone else's time), home of the brave (enough to take only what freedom you need)... think about it.

karmabook

Forgiveness;

TheBigPanda

There is no question here really. Grab your M-14 and a couple of grenades and go postal. People sure have been known to kill for less.

MacyBelle

I don't have much to add other than I'm so sorry for your loss. That dog reminds me so much of my Mickey, he's part basenji, they're great dogs. I hope you get justice!

shookshok

that sucks, wish this article was about a kernel instead...

johnwayne1

the fact that you describe the dog with the word "it" tells me your just interested in money.

KorgRue

If it was honestly an accident, I would accept an apology. I am not a fan of lawsuits unless it was pure negligence or intentional.

I might go one further and request that they cover the adoption fees for a new dog from the SPCA. Other dogs need homes and a lawsuit wont bring your pup back. If you do replace him/her, please do not buy from a puppy mill (aka pet store). Either head over to the SPCA (preferable) or contact a reputable breeder.

Sorry about your loss.

jelliedbabies

Send them a letter detailing your stance on the issue (wanting money to replace the dogs value) but make it clear you are willing to take them to court if they are unwilling to pay up. send an invoice with the letter for shots and other stuff and tell them to contact their legal representative on the issue who will hopefully tell them to pay up and have you sign a "I'm not going to screw you out of more money at a later date" contract with some sort of hush money payment and contract to stop the kenels reputation and business going to shit.

Sex_Cactus

Show them what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass.

dionysian

I want to note something.

Our kennel took care of plenty of dogs, and the Basenji were always ..... touchy dogs. They had to be handled in a certain way or they'd snap and bite, or try their hardest to jerk out of the leash (but could not because we used our own slip-noose leashes that just become choke collars with pulling). They were extremely aristocratic dogs and hated being around strangers in a strange place, definitely dogs you didnt want to grab at if they were running loose.

From wikipedia basenji temperament and behavior:

The Basenji is alert, affectionate, energetic, and curious and reserved with strangers. The Basenji is somewhat aloof, but can also form strong bonds with people and can become emotionally attached to a single human. Basenjis may not get along with non-canine pets. It is commmonly patient, but does best with older considerate handlers. Basenjis dislike wet weather, like to climb, can easily get over chain wire fences, and are very clever at getting their own way. The Basenji has the unique properties of not barking (it makes a low, liquid ululation instead) and cleaning itself like a cat. It can be described as speedy, frisky, tireless at play, and teasing the owner into play. Most Basenji problems usually involve a mismatch between owner and pet - it is a very intelligent breed and can be dominant. Basenjis often stand on their hind legs, somewhat like a meerkat, by themselves or leaning on something; the Basenji is also known to be able to jump over 6 feet vertically.[citation needed] This behavior is often observed when the dog is curious about something. Basenjis reveal their animal-of-prey nature by chasing after fast moving objects that cross their paths.

So... basenji can climb and jump like mofo's, and in my experience are not very friendly to strangers. You didn't mention anything about HOW this dog got away. If its something sort of inherent to the breed there may not be anything you can do legally. Most dogs can't climb fences and jump super high.

shatterbeam

Accidents happen.

The same could have happened in your own yard.

Unless there was actual systemic neglect, do nothing. Unless there was real neglect, it wasn't their fault, and nothing you do to them will bring your dog back.

dirtymoney

ask for double what the dog was worth. If the kennel owners give it to you... consider yourself lucky. If they dont... then small claims court for the value of the dog. The Kennel will lose & they know it. So odds are they will cough up the double-amount (if they are smart).

bullx2

From reading your edits, i can see you'll be trolling for some "trauma dollars"..and you might throw in some counseling, by a certified MH pro. And don't forget the love that the kids will miss from the beloved animal. Im not saying your not due something, instead of replacing it with a high dollar, overbred animal, try a mutt next time. I don't understand the whole attachment to animals thingy, seems silly to me..it was a dog for christsakes, not a child. (yea, im a insensitive asshole)

njmh

I reckon sue for the value of a replacement animal if you feel you need to, but no more than that. Society today is way too litigious.

Snowlock

Bad news really. I am speaking from some experience and being a lawyer. A friend of mine had the same thing happen 1st year of law school.

The unfortunate result is that pets are considered to be property, and the death of a pet by the negligence of another is basically the same as if you asked someone to watch over an expensive vase for you while you were away on vacation. If they break the vase, they merely have to pay you the value of the vase.

In general, the value of the pet (since pets don't appreciate with age) is the cost you bought it for. So if you bought an amazing dog at the animal shelter for $25... you get back $25 in damages.

Sorry.

dont_ban_me_please

It's a fucking dog. Tell them to get you a new one and get on with life.

anerkie33

Your options are pretty limited.

While yes, there's a growing movement in NYC and possibly SF where abuse of animals is a prosecuted criminal offense, this doesn't sound like one of those cases. This sounds like a freak accident, or at worst incompetence, which falls far short of an animal cruelty standard. So criminal prosecution is out.

Litigation would also be fruitless since our society considers pets objects, not sacred living things. It's a small claims action at most and you get approximately what you paid for the dog, less depreciation and reasonable wear and tear.

As an aside, this is why chemotherapy costs $100 for a dog but $100,000 for a person and why you can call a vet in the morning and get an appointment for that afternoon but to see a doctor requires weeks if not months of lead time. The value of the principal and the recourse for loss sets the cost of service. A hospital that let your father get up and wander into traffic after surgery while recovering from general anesthetic would be so fucked, but an animal hospital? Three, four figures of liability tops.

(FWIW, sometimes I wish I could dehumanize myself by signing a waiver and go to my vet for a checkup. It sure would be convenient.)

people_person

Fuck that shit. They have insurance for exactly this.

Antistis

I don't have advice for the legal crud, but I feel for you, a lot. In the past 4 years, I've lost two dogs and over ten cats due to the area I live in, so I know your loss. Though getting another animals helps, I suggest getting a little charm or something to remember him by. It elps me get over my animals. I always took a dog tag and got their names engraved on it, and I hang it on my billboard.

I hope you and your amily were at least able to put him to proper rest and bury him. It helps to say a few last words.

cannedheatinmyheels

;( i've had 2 dogs die in my life, my heart goes out to you.

dishie

I don't have any legal advice, but I did want to say sorry for your loss. Losing a pet is heartbreaking.

TokenRightWinger

Clearly, you must kill them one by one with increasingly psychotic 'games' where they must make a moral choice, of sorts, or else die. You will take the first 2, put them in a dilapidated industrial bathroom, and anchor them to the wall by their legs. Give them instructions via a microcassette recorder on how to escape by following the "rules" of their "game".

They will learn from both tapes that one must escape the bathroom, while the other must kill him before six o'clock, or he'll lose his wife and daughter and be left to die. They find a bag containing two hacksaws, though neither is able to cut through the chains. They will realize with growing fear that they are meant to be used on their feet.

Let me know when this is done and I will contact you with further instructions.

elementskat3r

Sue the ever-living shit out of them. That was your brother's dog. They are supposedly professionals. This shit should NOT happen. If it were my dog, I'd be raising hell.

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