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[–]78fivealive 237 points238 points ago

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If you want to run the test, I'll pay for it. Just PM me, give me the invoice from the vet. If it's around 60-80 bucks, I'll write you a check for the full cost.

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[–]leeharris100[S] 14 points15 points ago

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Also, thank you very much for your offer as well! I will be keeping you guys updated and let you know the situation :)

[–]Buckaletta 7 points8 points ago

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Someone further down recommended opening up a paypal acct so people can easily send you donations. I'd like to help chip in if you set something up!

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points ago

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^ This is why I like reddit.

[–]mriaowr 2 points3 points ago

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purrrrr

[–]leeharris100[S] 8 points9 points ago

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That's the plan!

[–]Veteran4Peace 4 points5 points ago

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Please set up a Paypal account and post the details here. I'd like to chip in.

[–]donwilson 32 points33 points ago

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You are a hero to cats everywhere.

[–]78fivealive 14 points15 points ago* 

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EDIT: I think the OP is the cat hero here.

[–]donwilson 2 points3 points ago

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I've never seen a cat spit... do I want to?

[–]78fivealive 4 points5 points ago

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She has two right now. I caught one smoking. That you want to see.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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This is true, another tried to sell me drugs and broke into my car when I wasn't looking.

[–]jerseydevil 12 points13 points ago

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Logged in for the upvote, stayed for the faith in humanity.

[–]leeharris100[S] 12 points13 points ago

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Wow, thank you for the offer. I got an offer for some financial help from a friend, but I will definitely PM you with an update. Your generosity is appreciated!

[–]girlpriest 13 points14 points ago

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heart melts

[–]78fivealive 4 points5 points ago

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Hopefully for the OP, no way I would have done all that in my poor college days.

[–]girlpriest 5 points6 points ago

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For the situation. For the OP for doing something genuinely compassionate and unselfserving. And for everyone's offers of help!

It's nice to be reminded there's people like this around.

[–]TheDentite 49 points50 points ago

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My dog needs $4,000 for gambling debts. I mean worm tests.

[–]bonesapart 4 points5 points ago

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Wow, thanks for being you. There are so few people in this world that would do a thing like that. I'll follow your example and pass it on today, in the hopes that other people will too :)

[–]Xevo 2 points3 points ago

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You're a good man/woman!

[–]TheUltimateDouche 6 points7 points ago

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DUDE YOU'RE GONNA GET SO MUCH PUSSY. CHICKS LOVE THAT SHIT

[–]LurkingGrue 2 points3 points ago

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ಠ_ಠ

[–]guymandude 1 point2 points ago

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Thank you for being an awesome person!

[–]l-jack 1 point2 points ago

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For reasons like this I appreciate Reddit. People here actually care.

[–]Kittycide 1 point2 points ago

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You've got a heart of gold. :D Upvote.

To the OP; let us know how the kitty makes out.

[–]pastachef 0 points1 point ago

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I love you, and my cat loves you, and all the other kittehs do too!

[–]mugwork 0 points1 point ago

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i must have some dust in my eye...

[–]meangrampa 42 points43 points ago

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Feed him dry food only he's a stray he's been eating anything and everything .Feed him dry kitten chow the cheap stuff everything else is too rich not that expensive vet stuff he needs less fat try it for a week or two and see if he improves. No milk just water if he wont eat it take it away for two days and leave him hungry but give water all he wants till he's empty then he will eat whatever you give him he'll beg and be a pain in the ass but he'll be better off.He has survived by begging and you're not going to train that out of him. save your money and get him fixed right away before he starts to spray once he starts he won't stop until euthanazied. These guys can help you http://www.paws.org/

[–]HRP 17 points18 points ago

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Wet food is like McDonalds for cats.

Nutro dry is the only way to go.

[–]constipated_HELP 2 points3 points ago

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Wrong. The correct diet for cats is 2 small meals of (quality) canned food each day along with limited access most of the day to dry food.

Source: veterinarian parents

[–]Buckaletta 0 points1 point ago

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That's what I used to feed my kitten but she didn't handle the high protein content well. I switched her to dry food that doesn't contain grain but has at least 4% fiber content. Canned food only has 1% fiber at most. A lot of cats can't handle that.

Edit: Also, If you only feed your cat canned food it will also rot their teeth.

[–]constipated_HELP 1 point2 points ago

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Perhaps we can agree to disagree.

None of the 14 cats I have lived with have had rotten teeth, and none of the 18 that are currently living in my parents office have rotten teeth either.

[–]Buckaletta 0 points1 point ago

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agree to disagree it is :-)

[–]sarahrah 0 points1 point ago

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A dry food diet for a cat is a huge trigger for feline diabetes. A decent wet food is better for a cat than any dry food.

[–]Buckaletta 0 points1 point ago

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The only problem is I can't find a good canned food that doesn't contain grain but has a high enough fiber content for her :-(

[–]rogue780 2 points3 points ago

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Except that cats get a large amount of water from their food. Feeding them only dry food can cause chronic dehydration.

[–]HRP 22 points23 points ago

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I guess my cats aren't retarded since they drink a fuck ton of water.

[–]rogue780 0 points1 point ago

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[–]HRP 7 points8 points ago

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All I know is that my vets tell me my cats are incredibly healthy, the perfect weight, and they eat exclusively dry food.

[–]pablohoney102 3 points4 points ago

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Exclusively dry here too, and I live in Phoenix!

[–]Fara17 6 points7 points ago

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I'm a vet. Dry is fine in my opinion as long as they are healthy (esp if they don't have kidney disease or diabetes), if it is a good quality food. Some cats get fat on dry. Those cats clearly need to be on wet.

There are pros and cons to each. Dry can help with teeth but tends to pack on the pounds. Wet tends to have a higher protein count (and cats are pretty strict carnivores) but I would only get non-seafood flavors of canned (if it's a steady diet you can imagine the amount of mercury they are getting) and non-pop topped cans as some toxicologist think they are toxic and possibly linked to diseases such as hyperthyroidism (so pouches are okay, canned not as much). I think different diets work better for different cats personally.

[–]Realworld 0 points1 point ago

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When I was a kid our cats ate dry only, plus field voles caught in the summer. They were fit, healthy, & happy into old age.

[–]Fara17 0 points1 point ago

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Only if they have kidney problems, otherwise they concentrate their urine to make up for the difference. Canned food has been linked to hyperthyroidism in some studies so there are pros and cons to each.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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A bowl of water next to the bowl of dry food might go some way to stopping dehydration.

[–]allsecretsknown 4 points5 points ago

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/\ Do what this mean grampa says.

[–]behindthesticks 14 points15 points ago

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one of my cats went through a period of this, a week of chicken and rice seemed to fix it.

how is he in general? is he active? underweight?

[–]sarahrah 5 points6 points ago

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this is the best advice in this thread -- chicken and rice has helped every cat I've had that has gastro problems. Especially strays -- like someone else said, the critter has been eating anything he can so his stomach is problem all out of sorts.

[–]leeharris100[S] 4 points5 points ago

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He is very active and playful. Eats, drinks water, etc. He is definitely skinny, but it seems like that's caused by the fact that everything he eats explodes out the other side at some point.

Also, do I just boil the chicken/rice?

[–]Buckaletta 1 point2 points ago* 

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My kitten had this same problem because she couldn't handle the high protein content of the food I was feeding her. Also, cats shouldn't eat grains (corn, wheat, soy) it's not natural to them and can harm their digestive system. Go with a dry food that doesn't contain corn and has at least 4% fiber content, then of course always keep water out for it. Once I did this with my kitten her problems cleared up quickly.

Also... are you sure the kitten doesn't also need some litter box training since it is a stray?

Edit- every vet I've ever been too says food like fancy feast and 'chow' foods are horrible because they contain shit ingredients. Go for a high quality food (doesn't have to cost you an arm and a leg) with at least 4% fiber. I recommend Natural Balance Limited Ingredient Diet food. Not too pricey and no grain! Also, rice is totally safe and a great fiber source for cats. So chicken and rice would be nice and simple to help the little one's system get back on track until you get it on a dry food.

[–]legs 0 points1 point ago

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yeah my dog is old and is on the chicken and rice thing. works great . . . .but then again she is a dog.

[–]behindthesticks 0 points1 point ago

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If he's active then it doesn't seem like he is in too much trouble, but definitely keep an eye on him, and go straight back to the vets if you are at all unsure.

just boil the rice and chicken, cut into pieces and let it cool before you dish it up.

Hope the little guy gets better

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Yep. Any chicken bits will do (thighs, legs, wings). Boil it with the rice, then strip the meat from the bone and shred it into cat sized pieces.

[–]aerialkabuki 0 points1 point ago

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It sounds like a good idea, but i'd be concerned about the cat getting enough taurine. Cats need this or they can go blind or die of heart failure, so it is added to cat food. It's found it meat, but apparently the cooking process reduces the amount present in the meat.

[–]sarahrah 0 points1 point ago

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I don't think a permanent diet is being suggested, but rather a temporary one until the diarrhea and digestive problems are cleared up.

[–]aerialkabuki 0 points1 point ago

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I figured too, but I have no idea how long it would take to develop a deficiency.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Are you suggesting feeding him Red Bull?

[–]duckdelicious 0 points1 point ago

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absolutely. Chicken and rice is the way to go. Boil the chicken and shred it, mix with cooked rice and just keep it in the fridge. Feed it to the cat a tablespoon at a time with water on the side.

I fed this to my lab when she was dying of stomach cancer...it was the only thing she could keep down. It works.

[–]Dandeman321 21 points22 points ago

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AIDS?! Didn't know cats could get AIDs...

[–]78fivealive 19 points20 points ago

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FIV

[–]allsecretsknown 11 points12 points ago

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It's different than the human form of it (you can't contract it, don't worry) but with similar effects for cats.

[–]Dandeman321 5 points6 points ago* 

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Hrm... Never heard of that. Interesting.

EDIT:Also, thanks for the downvotes.

[–]allsecretsknown 7 points8 points ago

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No downvotes from here. To the downvoters: there's nothing wrong with asking a question!

[–]Dandeman321 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah I didn't think you would have if you gave me the answer... Not sure why it was downvoted :/

[–]RichardBachman 1 point2 points ago

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It's just people trying to get their advice placed at the top of the thread. Don't take it too bad.

[–]hypermark 6 points7 points ago

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I hadn't heard of it either, and then my cat caught it. I'd had him for ten years, and it was hell watching him suffer through it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feline_immunodeficiency_virus

[–]crow711 1 point2 points ago

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My family cat is FIV+, but we knew that when we adopted him because nobody else would take him.

Fortunately only a few minor health issues that he's more prone to because of his FIV, but he's been overall quite healthy the past 7 years we've had him!

Apparently it can stay dormant up to 10 years or so, but unfortunately a lot of people still put down their cat as soon as they find out they have it. :(

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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That's why I always wear a condom.

[–]HonkyTonkHero 2 points3 points ago

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Everyone has AIDS!

[–]HonkyTonkHero 6 points7 points ago

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AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS!

[–]DAWTSF 2 points3 points ago

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I hope I am missing something here.

[–]HonkyTonkHero 0 points1 point ago

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[–]TheUltimateDouche 2 points3 points ago

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OP NEEDS TO STOP FUCKIN THE KITTEN

[–]SmartShadeofBlue 7 points8 points ago

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Post this to your local craigslist. There is a very good chance that someone will a) take the cat off your hands and take care of it, or b) give you a little money to help out.

b) will only happen if you increase the emotional appeal of the ad by adding a touching personal story.

[–]HonkyTonkHero 1 point2 points ago

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Or by posting in the casual encounters section in exchange for some NSA action

[–]xb4r7x 9 points10 points ago

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My girlfriend and I found a little kitten in the road. It had been hit by a car and had some broken bones.... it was a sunday. The nearest open emergency vet clinic was an hour away, so there we went. When we got there, they asked if I was going to pay for the bills. I didn't have the money, so I signed the poor little kitten over to the vet. Hopefully they were able to find a good home for him.

They did tell me that they would try and fix him... but he was pretty messed up. Even if they put the little guy down, he went out better than he would have. In a ditch at the side of the road...

[–]sandrakarr 4 points5 points ago

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Happened to me once. Poor guy was in the the road, still moving. Wrapped him in my jacket, put him in the car, stroked his head as I drove for the 24 Emergency vet. He meowed a few times enroute, but he was gone by the time we got there.
Im going to go find one of my parents cats because Im depressed now. Meh.
Really hope your little one turned out okay. Even if he didnt, better that he had someone with him.

[–]xb4r7x 2 points3 points ago

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Almost the exact same experience. Wrapped it in the jacked and everything... just feel good that you gave the little kitteh some love and comfort during his last few moments... :)

[–]Daefea 7 points8 points ago

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A six month old kitten on new food that hasn't been properly switched from his old food is going to have awful liquid poos. You obviously can't go back to feeding him what he used to eat, but it might clear up in a few more days once he gets used to the food. Try pumpkin, not the flavored kind, but the raw kind, this will firm him up a bit. You can also feed him pro-biotic yogurt, again, unflavored. It will help the bacteria in his intestines which might also help his pooping.

Besides the dark poo, what you're describing is really normal from what I've seen from the kittens I've fostered. Kittens have the most delicate stomachs. Even with my adult cats, if I switch their food suddenly they have liquid shits for at least a week.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't bring him to the vet's, but it doesn't sound like Leukemia or AIDS, those usually present with respiratory infections or lethargy. Parasites or an infection are a lot more likely. It's also possible that stress from being in a new environment is causing intestinal irritation, it can happen, but usually the blood is fresh and bright red.

Give the pumpkin a try, its cheap and can really help a lot.

[–]Wythin 1 point2 points ago

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Seconding the pumpkin, also diarrhea = losing hydration, so get the fluids back into him any way you can: fresh water, wet food with nummy mashed up pumpkin in it.

[–]Slackwise 5 points6 points ago

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Dark diarrhea usually means internal bleeding. Ask the Vet about that.

I do recommend getting him tested for Leukemia/AIDS.

I recently found a cat that was positive for FeLV so I couldn't keep it with my current cat. I found it a loving home via Craigslist. I recommend doing so if you can't keep it, but be up front with the kitten having some special needs.

Good luck. :(

[–]autinytim 1 point2 points ago

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^ The dark black diarrhea could mean internal bleeding in the intestines or stomach. My vet had me looking out for this on my dog recently after she got better from not eating and throwing up for about a week.

Is there any vomiting or increased temperature?

[–]cabnnt1337 1 point2 points ago

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From OP:

The vet took his temp and said he was not running a fever

But yes, if it's dark-reddish or a pure, deep-black, then something is up.

[–]crownofworms 5 points6 points ago

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A quick test can rule out internal bleeding, pour a little of H2O2 over the black feces and if it forms a white foam then it's internal bleeding, if nothing happens then it could be something else.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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doesn't h202 foam over most anything? how foamy are we talking about here?

[–]Philthy42 5 points6 points ago

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Where are you? If by any chance you're in the Raleigh, NC area I know an awesome vet that would most likely help you out with the cost. My kitten had something like this when I got him, but it was a parasite.

[–]Damanta 1 point2 points ago

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For future reference what is this vet?

[–]Philthy42 0 points1 point ago

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Dr. Page Wages at Care First Animal Hospital. I forget if she works at Oberlin Rd or Glenwood Ave office.

[–]leeharris100[S] 0 points1 point ago

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In Texas, but thanks anyway!

[–]affix 4 points5 points ago

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Purina is absolute crap. Almost without exception, do not buy food from your vet, or food that your vet recommends. They get huge kickbacks for selling food from companies that make Purina, Science Diet, and a bunch of other good looking food that is bad for your cat.

He might have a corn or wheat allergy, and that crap is chock full of it. Go to a non-chain pet store, and ask for a food that is good for a cat with corn or wheat allergies. I'd recommend Wellness. Stick with the dry stuff if you can.

Chances are, your general practitioner knows jack shit about nutrition - you probably wouldn't ask them for diet advice. Well, your vet probably knows even less about animal nutrition. Most universities spend about a week on the subject.

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ACTUALLY food is one of the items that we get the LEAST amount of money back on. the reason science diet is so expensive is because of all the testing they put into their food. just look at the aafco statement on each bag of food. most will say FORMULATED to fit the needs of adult/puppy... whatever. science diet and a few other brands will say TESTED on... when they sell a food that says it'll help with joints, they have the data to back it up. EDIT: joints, food allergies, weight... whatever. just example that came to mind.

[–]affix 1 point2 points ago

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science diet and a few other brands will say TESTED on... when they sell a food that says it'll help with joints, they have the data to back it up.

Here's the ingredient list for Science Diet advertised for large breed dogs, which basically means 'good for joints' (and is advertised as such on their website):

Ground Whole Grain Corn, Soybean Mill Run (16% source of fiber), Chicken By-Product Meal, Powdered Cellulose, Corn Gluten Meal, Soybean Meal, Chicken Liver Flavor, Soybean Oil, Dicalcium Phosphate, Dried Chicken Cartilage, Iron Oxide, Iodized Salt, vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Potassium Chloride, Flaxseed, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, L-Lysine, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), Taurine, preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, L-Tryptophan, L-Carnitine, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract.

Soy and corn are the first two ingedients, with other soy sources later on. It lacks wheat which is good, but still has two of the top three most common allergy inducing ingredients. The first protein source is chicken by-product meal... that's ground up chicken feet, head, organs. Anything other than meat, basically.

You're being lied to regarding the health 'benefits' of Science Diet. I don't care what they told you in school, or what the rep told you when they visited your office - they're all paid to lie. The proof is right there in the ingredient list.

[–]tizz66 0 points1 point ago

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The first protein source is chicken by-product meal... that's ground up chicken feet, head, organs.

Isn't that what dogs would eat if they hunted for themselves...?

[–]affix 0 points1 point ago

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Feet and head? No. Organs, sure, but we're not talking about chicken livers here - they take all the parts that aren't fit for human consumption and grind it up.

[–]sumthingcool 0 points1 point ago

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What I feed my cat: Solid Gold Katz-n-Flocken All Life Stages Cat Food

Lamb, Chicken Meal, Brown Rice, Millet, Menhaden Fish Meal, Cracked Pearled Barley, Rice Bran, Canola Oil, Flaxseed Oil, Garlic, Amaranth, Blueberries, Dried Chicory Root, Taurine, Carotene, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Proteinate, (a chelated source of iron), Zinc Proteinate (a chelated source of zinc), Copper Proteinate (a chelated source of copper), Manganese Proteinate (a chelated source of manganese), Potassium Iodide, Thiamine Mononitrate, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Calcium Pantothenate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (vitamin B6), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin, Vitamin D Supplement, Folic Acid.

Yum

[–]IGottaSnake 0 points1 point ago

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You are SO right! It really burns me when I see these expensive pet foods with grains or corn as the first ingredient! They HAVE to have meat as the first ingredient. I used to spend so much money on a cat that had allergies and had to be shaved. Come to find out, I switched him to Nutro Natural Choice (which has meat as the main ingredient) and the allergies were gone. No more sores. We have a new kitten now, and he is the same way.

Thank you for pointing out that just because the vet gives it to you does not mean it is good for your pets! Get a brand that has meat (any kind) as that first ingredient and you will be so surprised at the difference. Nutro has a frequent buyer program too. They are kinda expensive, but you get a free bag after you buy ten, with no limit to how many times you do it. We just got a 30lb bag of free dog food a couple weeks ago. I won't use anything else anymore.

[–]IGottaSnake 0 points1 point ago

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Boy...I sound just like a commercial for them! I should see if I can do a voice-over.

[–]Fara17 0 points1 point ago

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It's possible he has an allergy but it usually doesn't develop that early. I'd look for other causes first (although the stress of a diet change can do it but it's not likely for the allergic reason you listed).

edit: by early I meant the age of the kitten.

[–]IGottaSnake 0 points1 point ago

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My kitten got his first sore from his allergies when he was only 6 weeks old. I had a cat before that had the same issue but didn't start until he was over a year old. Switched the food and cured it within days. If it is an allergy, he can give it 2 or 3mg of Benadryl once day and if the symptoms get better within a few days, then it was an allergy. Benadryl is safe for cats and dogs (my dog gets it almos daily because he scratches his eyes and nose raw otherwise). The dogae is 1mg per lb of body weight.

Either way, switch the food the one with meat as teh main ingredient and it will be healthier even if it's not an allergy issue.

Oh, and I trained and cared for (vet tech type stuff) dogs for over 5 years. I'm no vet, but I have had many pets and and worked with them for so long I very rarely have to take my animals to a vet for anything anymore. I patch them up and medicate them myself with no adverse effects. ;)

[–]Fara17 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah, like I said it's possible. Just not typical.

[–]IGottaSnake 0 points1 point ago

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I hear ya. It's just such a shame they market these horrible foods as healthy, slap a high price tag on them, and people think because they cost a lot they are good pet food. Crappy food can wreak havock on your poor pet, and your wallet. The extra money I spend on the food I get saves me tons since I don't have to pay a vet to knock out my cat to shave him every few months anymore. Kind of bums me out that the vet didn't know enough to suggest an allergy, too. I had to find it online (that's how I found out about NUtro being good for pets with allergies) after more than a year of my poor Persian having sores, and itching, and getting shaved.

We were short on cash this week so we had to get the cheapo food just until Friday. I HATE doing it and am glad we almost never have to, but man do they pay us back ten fold when it comes to the litter box. You never know how good you got it until you give them Wiskas again for a week!

[–]IGottaSnake 0 points1 point ago

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Biggest Pet Peeve: Beneful. Really?! Carrots? When do you see dogs in the wild digging up carrots? People still buy it because it says healthy and balanced on the bag and costs a lot of dough. It is CRAP people! That junk made my poor beagle girl blow the inside of her crate to pieces. Dogs and cats get meat...not carrots!

[–]tavisk 0 points1 point ago

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while I agree that Purina (store version) is not high end, their prescription formulation are very good. Theres is a very big difference between regular food and veterinary prescription food. Veterinarians do get decent kickbacks for standard maintenance foods but not on prescription diets. Their are many very important prescription diets that are not available through pet stores because they are only for specific types of cases. I am most familiar with science diet version, but they are all pretty similar.

For instance:
science diet C/D-s (now S/D I think) is used for animals that are prone to forming struvite bladder stones.
C/D-oxl - same but for calcium oxalate based stones.
K/D - for kidney support.
I/D - For intestinal recovery (ie: bland diet)
A/D - appetite diet, for animals that won't eat (very smelly).
Z/D - Hypoallergenic, for animals with very severe food allergies.
etc....

As a former vet tech, I would urge you not to hold it against your vet for having expensive foods or services. In a lot of ways veterinarians do a lot of the things that human medical professionals do at a fraction of the cost. For instance, in a vet hospital a bag of lactated ringers (IV bag) will cost the owner about 20-30 bucks. That same exact bag, from the same exact supplier will cost $200 at a human hospital.

think about this, at my old hospital your animal would get a spay which is full blown abdominal surgery including isoflorine inhalation anesthesia, pre medication, induction anesthetic, pain meds, a full blood chemistry, panel, CBC, PCV, pulse-ox and ECG monitoring during surgery, plus all the drapes, cleaning, sterilization, sharps disposal, medical waste disposal, suture, sterile gauze, sterile gloves, sterile gowns, sterile bonnets, etc.... all usually for under $300. Thats without insurance. I dare you to go to any human hospital and ask to have them stitch up a cut on your arm for less than 500 bucks.

Most veterinarians straight out of vet school (in private practice) make about 40-50 thousand dollars a year, and owe about 80 thousand dollars in student loans. I guess what I'm trying to say is that most veterinary hospitals are not trying to rip you off. They are trying to keep the doors open so they can save animals and put food on the table for their families.

oh, and most modern vet schools have specializations in animal nutrition and a strong focus on nutrition as a part the curriculum. I agree however that a lot of "old school" vets don't put much emphasis on it. that is why it is important to go to a veterinary hospital that has standards (preferably AAHA certified) and not just the cheapest one you can find.

[–]affix 0 points1 point ago

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That's all well and good, and I'm not saying vets are evil places filled with evil people trying to scam you. But for the most part, they know near nothing about pet nutrition.

The fact is, even the prescription foods you mentioned are filled with corn and soy. There's no reason for that, other than to make the product cheaper to produce. There's no health benefits to it. You're paying a bunch of money for prescription diets that still aren't healthy. They might address a specific issue, but so will a good food that isn't filled with all that crap.

[–]tavisk 0 points1 point ago

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Sorry if that last post came off a bit defensive. While I agree with you that natural diets are better and higher quality ingredients = higher quality nutrition, I have to disagree with you when it comes to your statement that corn, soy, chicken, wheat, etc are worse then lamb, rice, potato, ...etc. You are correct in that chicken, corn, beef, and wheat are the most common sources of pet allergies. I think the point your missing is that the reason those are largest sources of allergies is because those proteins are the ones that animals are exposed to the most often. If lamb and rice was the most common ingredient in dog and cat food, then lamb and rice would be the ones to avoid in order to lessen the likelihood of an allergy developing. As far as nutrition goes, chicken, beef, corn, and wheat are in no way worse than lamb, rice, and potato. Now as far as the quality of the ingredients put in, that is a different story.

Yes, chicken byproducts are not choice quality protein sources. The fact is though that pure white chicken meat while more tasty (from a human perspective) is probably the least nutritious part of a chicken. organ meat and bone meal provide more of the bodies necessary nutrients than a slab of pure homogeneous muscle tissue. But again, I think I might be over simplifying.

My issue with "organic" pet foods is that they do not in general provide ample studies into the effectiveness of their formulations. Anyone can throw a pile of "organic" ingredients into a bag and claim it's nutritious, but only a well researched study can show that it really is. I think we perhaps we can agree that both markets could benefit from meeting their products in the middle, with organic foods providing a higher standard of testing and with commercial food using higher quality ingredients.

[–]constipated_HELP 0 points1 point ago

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They get huge kickbacks for selling food from companies that make Purina, Science Diet, and a bunch of other good looking food that is bad for your cat.

This really only applies to large places, like VCA. Local veterinarians are far more honest, and most are actually in the business because they like it.

Do your own research to figure out the best food. My parents (Vets) recommend Friskies. Many small vets carry this, so if you can afford it go to your local vet to support them. Otherwise, BJ's or a similar wholesale store is the best place to go.

[–]affix 0 points1 point ago

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My parents (Vets) recommend Friskies.

Why?

[–]constipated_HELP 0 points1 point ago

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Not sure. That's just what we have always used and recommended. I'm too lazy to do my own research, so I just listen to them.

[–]affix 0 points1 point ago

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Friskies is one of the worst foods you can feed your cat.

[–]constipated_HELP 0 points1 point ago

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Oh wow, I didn't know! Thank you!

[–]AngelaMotorman 0 points1 point ago

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I'll be sure to mention that to my six healthy ex-strays, who won't eat any other brand.

[–]IGottaSnake 0 points1 point ago

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They won't eat anything else because the unhealthy crap is flavored to taste better...so you will think since they like it better it is better. My kid would pick McDonald's over a turkey sandwhich any day and I still know that feeding him junk every day is unwise. Friskies and Wiskas are horrible. You probably don't care because stays crap outside. When the crap looks like molten pancake, it means it's bad for the cat.

[–]affix 0 points1 point ago

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You mean any other brand you tried at Petco.

[–]leeharris100[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I'll give the fancy food a try. Do they sell it somewhere like Petsmart? I don't think I have a local owned pet store here :(

[–]Buckaletta 0 points1 point ago

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Where do you live? There are a few smaller chain pet stores that sell decent food. PM me and I can help you find one in your area. I'm a poor college student too and found a great food to feed my kitten who had the same problems that hasn't broken my bank acct.

[–]eileenk 0 points1 point ago

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I feed my pets Wellness and various other natural/holistic pet foods, and it's always in good supply at my local Petsmart and Petco. Good luck! Feel free to PM me if you have any questions about quality pet food :)

[–]Buckaletta 0 points1 point ago

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Wellness is good food but it's fiber content is really low. It's common for cats to have digestive issues with foods that have a super high protein content. I had my kitten on Orijen then Wellness but she didn't do well on either. I switched her to Natural Balance L.I.D and she's doing amazingly now. But yeah, if your kitten doesn't have problems with high protein then Wellness is awesome.

[–]sumthingcool 0 points1 point ago

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Hmmm, not sure if petsmart carries it but petco does: http://www.petco.com/product/15040/Solid-Gold-Katz-n-Flocken-All-Life-Stages-Cat-Food.aspx

Katz N Flocken. Weirdest name ever, I know. But I went down to the local hippie pet store when I got my cat and spent a while reading the ingredients of every type they had and the Katz N Flocken was the best by far IMHO, the only one with lamb as the first ingredient, and my cat loves it...

[–]AMerrickanGirl 0 points1 point ago

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I haven't seen a non-chain pet store since I was a kid, which was a long time ago.

[–]tavisk 2 points3 points ago

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former Veterinary technician here.

Did they deworm even though they didn't see any eggs under the fecal flotation? if so which dewormer? (albon, pyrantel, panacure, droncit?) Which antibiotic did they give you? parasites such as roundworms. hookworms, tape worms, coccidia, and giardia tend to be shed intermittently. One negative fecal flotation will not rule out intestinal parasites. Coccidia and giardia are especially hard to see in a standard fecal float and usually causes long term diarrhea is young animals. If they gave you metronidizole (antibiotic) than giardia is unlikely. Fiv/Felv are possible but unlikely considering the young age. FIP (feline infectious Peritonitis) is possible but less common and would have worse signs then just diarrhea. I would probably recommend having them send off a fecal sample to the lab for a fecal analysis (expensive) or just a couple big round of standard dewormers (2 weeks apart) (even if negative results) followed by a course of metronidizole (if not already) and continue bland food and lots of water. make sure to get vaccines, but wait on Felv and FIV until tested as they will show positive titers once vaccinated (making it harder to diagnose if already infected)

I am not a veterinarian however, so if anything I say conflicts with what your vet suggests, than ignore me in favor of your vet. Thank you.

[–]Fara17 0 points1 point ago

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vet here. Agree with most of what you wrote (and should have read it before I repeated what you said about sending off the fecal :) ) except the giardia strains I see tend to respond better to panacur than metronidazole (with the standard generic diarrhea doses of metronidazole anyway).

[–]DaimyoNoNeko 2 points3 points ago

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Create a paypal account for the kitty. I can't pay for all but I'd chip in. Save the rest for litterbox/food. With any luck, you'll be dealing with both ends of the cat for several years.

[–]Buckaletta 1 point2 points ago

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I'd love to help as well!

[–]jevanses 1 point2 points ago

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Me too! Make a paypal acct.

[–]runbunnyrun 2 points3 points ago

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Just from personal experience with my own stray kitty, QUIT GIVING THE CANNED FOOD AND SWITCH TO DRY!! The day after I stopped giving him canned food, his diarrhea immediately cleared up. Another cure his vet gave was to feed him plain chicken and white rice (2/3 rice, 1/3 chicken) for a couple of days.

Wow, can't believe we are discussing cat diarrhea lol. But best of luck, stray cats make the nicest pets!

[–]enfermerista 1 point2 points ago

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stray cats make the nicest pets!

So true! I think they're extra smart. Street-wise and all that. My cat is an ex-feral kitten and he's so fun, it's like living with a cuddly, house trained wild animal. He's just reeeally shy around new people.

[–]IGottaSnake 0 points1 point ago

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When we give our cats any kind of wet food as a treat we expect the litter box to get destroyed that night. We took a big rubbermaid container and turned it into the world largest covered litter box and it STILL reaks after our 3 get the wet stuff.

[–]milky-way 0 points1 point ago

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Also keep the rice water for the cat to drink, that saved my dog's life when she had parvo virus...I guess it couldn't hurt the cat!

[–]Vogelbein 4 points5 points ago* 

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A friend of mine is almost sure it's giardia. To test this, you need to collect your cats droppings for 3 days, because they don't shit them out every day, so the vet can test for this. Better just ask about giardia next time you talk to your vet. Another thing you can ask about is Coccidia (no dropping collection for this one, as far as I know.) Edit: My friend suggests boiled chicken with rice as a good diet for a cat with diarrhea, also drops of joghurt now and then.

[–]aerialkabuki 1 point2 points ago

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I second the yogurt (I assume that's what you meant.) Not all cats can handle dairy, but if he seems ok with it, it will restore some of the normal bacteria to his gastrointestinal tract that are frequently wiped out by antibiotics. This may solve the diarrhea problem. A shame that the vet didn't worn you that antibiotics frequently cause diarrhea. :/

[–]Vogelbein 0 points1 point ago

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Yes, yogurt. I slipped into german there for a second.

[–]steelrain 1 point2 points ago

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http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2006/Giardiasis/images/giardia%20drawing.jpg

It's hard to take a parasite seriously when it looks like a smiley face.

[–]leeharris100[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Would antibiotics kill these? I have been giving him antibiotics for about a week now.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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No. These are intestinal parasites, not bacteria.

[–]lovelynotes 1 point2 points ago

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So, my kitty has a pretty sensitive tummy, and he is almost 2 years old. I am sure to buy dry cat food with NO RED DYE in it, at all. It's a bitch to find, but it really helped his tummy. I only keep the dry out for grazing if I am going to be working all day or while I sleep, because I don't want him to be a fatty.

In addition to that, I make wet food for him, which he loves and helps with his poos.

RECIPE

  • 1 chicken breast, boiled
  • 1 cup cooked white rice
  • 1/2 cup cooked broccoli
  • 1/4 cup cooked carrot
  • Low sodium chicken broth

Basically, cook everything, put chicken, broccoli, rice and carrots in food processor (or blender) and finely chop. Then, blend in the chicken broth until it's wet enough that it holds together, but not drippy or soggy, it's easy to eyeball.

It makes about 7-10 days worth of food for an adult cat, so probably 2 weeks for your pipsqueak. And it keeps in the fridge just fine.

That wet food REALLY helps my cat with poos and hairballs, plus he absolutely loves it.

Best of luck with your new love! He's a cutie :)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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I just have to say, that sounds delicious.

[–]lovelynotes 0 points1 point ago

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Haha, it's not bad actually. Although, the texture is pretty much like baby food, which is a bit of a turn off since I have teeth.

[–]Sazzamataz 1 point2 points ago

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Sometimes antibiotics will cause diarrhea.

I definitely recommend doing the FeLV and FIV test. You'll also want to get him neutered when he's feeling better. You can try contacting your local shelter to find a low cost spay/neuter clinic. (My hospital neuters cats for $45.) The shelter might be able to do the blood test at a lower cost too. Good luck.

[–]rysseeroo 1 point2 points ago

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My kitty is allergic/intolerant of food with any kind of chicken in it. Could be a food intolerance. Or, it could be overfeeding.
I say pick up the food for 24 hours (to let his stomach settle) then feed him very small amounts. If he has the same problem, transition kitty to new food without normal sources of protein (read ingredients, try eliminating chicken first, then fish it that doesn't work) over the course of a week. It can take up to three months to see good results, that's what happened to us, but patience worked.
Also try not to feed food with wheat or soy or corn or anything that has glutens in it, that is like mcdonald's for kitties. Google food transitioning for kitties and also cat food recall info for what caused it all, and you'll get good directions. OK, I'm a crazy cat-food lady, but this worked for us. Good luck! I hope it all works out.

[–]edie37 1 point2 points ago

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Aww..I hope your kitty is ok. My mother-in-law found a kitty once who had been hit by a car and was in the road. No bleeding, but definitely beaten up. She held him in her lap all the way home (about an hour) and raised him. He died last year at age 19. Possibly the most unattractive cat I'd ever seen (apparently even ugly as a kitten), but was a loved member of the family.

[–]eriley 1 point2 points ago

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Try Kitten Mittens!

[–]SnortyMcGoatfinger 1 point2 points ago

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Does he have a name yet? I really think he needs a name....

[–]IGottaSnake 1 point2 points ago

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Shart

[–]leeharris100[S] 1 point2 points ago

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Nope :(

I'm open to ideas!

[–]xyroclast 3 points4 points ago

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Mr. Splashy Pants

[–]repsuc 2 points3 points ago

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lord voldermort! best kitty name ever

[–]msten19 0 points1 point ago

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Voldy-mort, Voldy-mort, oooh Voldy Voldy Voldy, Voldy-mort!

[–]rkiga 1 point2 points ago

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"tidder" or "stool water"

[–]SnortyMcGoatfinger 0 points1 point ago

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I'm partial to Snorty...

[–]illmasturbatetothat 1 point2 points ago

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i am not a cat owner but this is one of the largest reasons i love reddit.

also, i really like cats...just dont have the time to take care of one right now.

[–]kokocostanza 1 point2 points ago

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Get pet insurance. Don't tell the insurance provider about your previous visits to the veterinarian. Pay for the medical bills. Get reimbursed.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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continue with the food. cat's digestive systems are really fragile and tend to freak out from food changes. cheap food is full of SHIT which is why it is CHEAP. also, parasites have shedding cycles and sometimes don't show up in stool samples. 90% of puppies and kittens have roundworms, which make their bellies distended. most likely he has those, and quite possibly coccidia, which does cause diarrhea. coccidia is really easy to see in a fecal floatation though.. but i would maybe request getting dewormed for that (it's most likely not what the vet already de-wormed him with). OR you could find a no-kill shelter. they don't NOT kill animals, only the ones that have too many issues to be adopted out. kittens are big hits and they would most likely have the funds to correct whatever is wrong.

[–]shamecamel 0 points1 point ago

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90% of puppies and kittens have roundworms,

like... stray puppies/kittens? Where's this statistic from?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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stray or not. it's sort of common knowledge i guess in the veterinary world...

[–]leeharris100[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Would antibiotics kill these things? I have been giving them to him for the past 5-6 days.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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antibiotics kill infections. intestinal parasites can only be rid by using the proper medication. different parasites respond to different deworming medications.

[–]john_nyc 1 point2 points ago

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my cat can't eat wet foods...will throw up within minutes. I have fed him Iams Hairball care for a long time without issue. Try a nice try kitten food in very little amounts through the day. Don't give him a big bowl to enjoy. Ration it out so maybe if he slows down a bit it will help digestion.

[–]p858snake 0 points1 point ago

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Is the wet food the stuff with the "jelly stuff" in it/around the food (such as fish) because that is apparently a common issue for some cats.

[–]leeharris100[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Good idea. It seems that he stuffs his face then poops out the equivalent of a small whale's daily diet. Maybe if he has less to poop out then his stomach can chill out for a bit. Thanks!

[–]IGottaSnake 0 points1 point ago

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I know I have said this a few times on here, but I swear by Nutro foods. Get the dry kitten food. Pet supply, petco, and petsmart all carry it I think. I watched open sores heal up in 2 days just from switching from corn based foods to Nutro. Just make sure you mix it in gradually with the old stuff like the bag says. If you just switch the food one day it will cause all sorts of problem all over again...kinda like if a vegetarian tries to eat a big burger one day. :(

[–]Buckaletta 0 points1 point ago

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I second the opinion of going to grain free dry food. Easily the best thing you can do for your pet :-) I've never tried Nutro but I have had great experience with Natural Balance L.I.D.

[–]IGottaSnake 0 points1 point ago

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I am sure they are very similar. The Nutro I use is Natural Choice. I wouldn't be surprised if they have pretty identical ingredients. They really should pay me because I praise that stuff like it's my own product. Even with all my experience with animals, I was blown away at how fast the allergies cleared up and how quickly my kritters looked so much healthier.

[–]Buckaletta 0 points1 point ago

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hahaha. Same here with Natural Balance. What I love about it is it SMELLS like what it is. It doesn't have that 'cat food' smell where they throw in a ton of ingredients at once. It's basic and healthy. As soon as I put Olive (said kitty) on it her coat shined up, she got more energy, she stopped stinking up the house and she liked being held again :-) If I ever can't find Natural Balance though I'll definitely try Nutro! It's just so hard to find a quality cat food (read: no grains) that has at least 4% fiber :-(

[–]allsecretsknown 0 points1 point ago

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Iams hairball care is exactly what my cats get, never had any problems and all three are healthy and active.

[–]shamanicspacebum 0 points1 point ago

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Is he lethargic? That is the main indicator of the serious cat desires that I have experienced. Is it just diarrhea or is he laying around all day and not doing anything? Are you confusing niceness with lethargy?

[–]Awesome_Face 0 points1 point ago

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Feed it to an ATM.

[–]unoriginalusername 0 points1 point ago

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I had a cat with IBS (pretty much constant diarrhea). The only thing I ever found that helped was giving him this food.

[–]aishagotout 0 points1 point ago

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Does this mean kitt is staying with you and you are taking him in? My kitty was also around a six month old stray when he followed me home one day as i was calling my other kitty, he was quite the opposite however and had lots of trouble pooping, when i initally took him to the vert the bloodwork was done as a precaution and im glad for it, i wasnt really very well off,but i felt it would probibly be better to know from the offset what is going on.

In terms of kittys having poorly tummys though, when my other kitty,ran away and came back with very bad diarrhoea i fed him ultra bland food for a while, 1-2 weeks( on vets advise) and eventually it corrected itself without medication, i fed him cool boiled rice cooked in a little veg stock and some cooked chicken breast(again suggestions from vet) and he liked it and it im sure did help i then slowly got him back onto his normal dry kitty food( vets advise to me was dry food its good for kittys teeth, he only occasionally has the meat stuff he doesnt seem to like it) Its probibly just his tummy getting use to normal food as im sure hes spent months eating whatever he can find, and getting the crap outta his system, quite literally.

Not sure if this will help any just sharing my experiences with kitty poop.

[–]Mr_Zero 0 points1 point ago

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It is simply the change in diet. Give it a week or two. I just went through the same thing. Lots of diarrhea. Then monster shits for about two weeks then back to normal. You would have thought we had a Bobcat using the litter box. I think she ate a lot in the beginning because she was used to never knowing when the next meal would come. We always have food available for her and she seems to have really relaxed about gorging herself.

[–]fleshlight69 0 points1 point ago

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[–]kiai 0 points1 point ago

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From the currency you speak of, it appears we are not in the same country. Nevertheless, if you are not from the usa, PM me and tell me where you are and if I am in the same city, I'll help you. I'll put in time, and money - whatever it costs.

I hope you are going to keep that li'l darling. Looks very cute and I am glad there are people like you in the world who are ready to help a kitty in need.

[–]Fara17 0 points1 point ago

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Okay I'm a vet but I did not do an examination on your kitten so I can't give you specific advice about what could be causing the diarrhea. The only thing I would suggest is that if they ran the fecal in house, they could potentially miss many parasites that would be caught if the stool was sent to a lab (simple flotation vs zinc sulfate/centrifuge).

[–]milky-way 0 points1 point ago

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Give it rice and chicken or tuna and keep the water from the rice, let it cool and let the cat drink it.

[–]Twisting_Me 0 points1 point ago

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Ok, this is a long shot, but do you feed him any people food that is flavored with onions or garlic? They cause something called Heinz Anemia which kills blood cells and makes their shit come out black and tar-like. I know because i accidentally did it to my cat :(

[–]leeharris100[S] 0 points1 point ago

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No people food, just the stuff the vet gave me!

[–]Twisting_Me 1 point2 points ago

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im sorry about your kitty, maybe try switching it up with some other healthy dry cat foods. Purina 1 naturals costs about $8 for a 6lb bag but its very healthy because it has 38% protien, i give it to my poor kitty, the one that i fucked up

[–]AngelaMotorman 0 points1 point ago

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I've read this entire discussion (up to 2 am EST), and I just want to re-emphasize what various people have said about the most likely causes: stress, antibiotics, milk. Even eating too much, too fast can be a problem. Any one of these triggers could cause vomiting and diarrhea -- and once either form of violent purging starts, the resulting electrolyte imbalance can keep it going and going and going. So you should probably try not only food that's easily digestible, but also offered more frequently in smaller amounts.

Have you tried Kitten Milk Replacer (KMR)? It's usually used for very young kittens, but it's incredible stuff. There's no real milk in it -- just rocket fuel for kittens, as far as I can figure. It has brought several sickly kittens back fromt he brink for me. It's sold in pet stores.

I hope your kitten's problems fade away soon, and you are able to enjoy each other's company for a couple of decades .

[–]noether 0 points1 point ago

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Never give it dairy products as all cat are lactose intolerant. keep a bowl of clean water or several around. see if there are any animal welfare organizations in your area who will help you. the kitteh may have a liver or thyroid problem which is treatable - but requires blood work to diagnose. Perhaps if you can find a vet who will work something out with you - offer volunteer services. Good luck.

[–]aurevoirmeatball 0 points1 point ago

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Hey there - no cows milk, please. Apparently the water (cooled down) that rice has been boiled in is really good, lean chicken maybe? Good luck, you're a nice person for trying. Hopefully it's just the change in diet thats causing this, my parents had a teeny stray (now a gigantic adult!) that had bad diarrhoea, i believe the rice water and chicken helped, plain foods...but please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[–]Swan_Writes 0 points1 point ago

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I had a similar problem with my cats. I tried the best I could find in dry and wet food, nothing made much of a difference, and one of my cats developed bladder problems that where life-threatening. I paid some very expensive vet bills. Then I got them on a diet based on the Pottenger cat study : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_M._Pottenger,_Jr. This woman's book was also helpful, http://www.thenaturalcat.net/

Now I feed them a mix of (roughly) 40-60% raw ground organic meat from a local farm, 20% lacto-fermented grains, and 20% veggie, usually cooked broccoli or shredded carrot. I also make my own Kefir-cheese and this makes up 10-20% of the mix. I give them olive oil in their food when they have hair-balls, and a cat-sized dose of vitamin C when they have colds.

Yes, it's more expensive and time consuming, and all three cats are thriving instead of doing ok, or in the case of one, wasting away.

[–]KyussHead 0 points1 point ago

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Probably been eating Sam Losco's greasy fucking hot dogs.

[–]OortCloud 0 points1 point ago

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This sounds like it might be feline distemper. Here's a link to a site so you can diagnose:

http://cats.about.com/od/diseasesandconditions/p/panleuk.htm

Good luck.

[–]leeharris100[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I'll look into it. Thanks!

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Awe. I had the same thing happen with the stray I found. I got him de-wormed & had to keep him out on the porch for a few weeks until the icky poos stopped. (Now he is about 7 years old.) I certainly wouldn't feed him canned food though, dry food only.

[–]cat1133 0 points1 point ago

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Why dry food? I've read elsewhere that cats have very little thirst drive since they have evolved to get most of their water from their prey, and therefore may not drink enough if you give them dry food.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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I have never heard of that. Now, I am not a veterinarian...But, until recently, I never gave my cats canned food. (They get a wee bit now, just as a treat.) They have always drank their water just fine. I can't tell you the exact reason why, but I have always just kind of known that dry food better for cats (and dogs) than canned. I have also experienced vets trying to sell me their fancy expensive "prescription" food when it wasn't necessary. (I had one fess up that I could just buy the Purina brand when I told him I really couldn't afford the Science Diet, but that I loved my kitteh and wanted him to get better.)

I hope your little kitten gets better.

[–]huevosrameros 0 points1 point ago

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Force him to drink if he isn't drinking much. Diarrhea can be a cause of dehydration, also can be heightened by the consumption of canned food. Feed him dry food.

[–]DeaconBlues 0 points1 point ago

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Kittens often have potty problems. Switch to dry food. Also, there is a pepto bismol formulated for cats that you can get at most pet stores that helps.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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My cat was lactose intolerant. If you're giving it milk, I'd try not giving it any for a few days and see what happens. Do you know if he had diarrhea before you took him in?

[–]allotriophagy 0 points1 point ago

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Change his diet and see if it has any effect.

[–]asdfman123 0 points1 point ago

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Buy a big snake and feed the kitten to it.

[–]TheDentite 0 points1 point ago

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they want another $60-80 for the blood work.

Nice try Pdub!

[–]xyroclast 0 points1 point ago

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Since when can cats have AIDS?

[–]DarthContinent 0 points1 point ago

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Maybe take him to an ASPCA or pet rescue place to get him taken care of? Don't take him to the Humane Society, as they may decide to "take care" of him permanently.

[–]AMerrickanGirl 1 point2 points ago

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It depends on which location. My sister works at a humane society that is a no-kill shelter.

[–]DarthContinent 1 point2 points ago

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Cool!! The one near me isn't unfortunately, but there is an awesome pet rescue which whisks many lucky cats and kittens away from that fate.